Hi Wordsmith. I put the lowering links and the lower seat on, so I can flat foot now. I'm 61 and never got the "growth Spurt" that I was promised in my teens, so I have a pretty short reach. I haven't dropped the forks yet but am going to go a half inch lower with them too. Something I don't like much, to get the bike on the main stand is harder now, the angle changed a bit. I grab the sidecase mount to lift it and helps. The lower seat is still fairly comfy, put 5000k on the bike from new last year, over 4000 of that with lower seat, didn't die. Hope this helps!