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so, do you suggest i go for complete cartridge replacement myself? I can handle most repairs if i have the tools but i don't have any fork tools. I believe complete cartridge replacement would not need entire set of tools, is that right?

I threw in the towel. Instead of getting a new or different bike, i'm going for suspension upgrade on my 2016 FJ09. I'm given USD 2100 estimate including labor to do springs and piston swap (all k-tech)+ shock (k-tech RR). I was wondering if i should save on labor and use the savings to do a cartridge kit drop instead. Does it make any sense?

My 1973 royal enfield had something inbuilt for self lubrication ( i think breather pipe routed to chain). Was always a mess lol. I'm sure these new systems should be a lot better.

i've been away for a while but just wanted to update on this issue. It was the most unusual root cause. under lubricated chain. I noticed couple of times that the sound would reduce or completely go away after chain cleaning, tightening and lubricating before returning after few hard rides. So i started lubricating the chain more than i did earlier and life is all ok now. lol

2016 FJ09 - 40k miles Something seems to be catching something in lower gears (1-4) Weird periodic unusual sounds (sounds metal to metal touch) from clutch side. Even with engine off, bike in gear, clutch pulled in, it doesn't roll freely for entire rotation. Something blocks the movement and makes a lound metal to metal touch sound at a particular point engine rotation. Something similar as if clutch was not pulled in. With little force i does move but make that sound. I got valves adjusted, did couple of calm rides and it was OK. Then 3rd ride was very spirited with high speeds at lower gears, and then this sound started. Any idea what it could be? Did i break something in gear box/clutch or something was not tight enough while putting back the valves/cam-shaft/etc? The engine revs perfectly without any sounds when not in gears. It doesn't make that sound when rolling at 8mph in 1st gear (with throttle at idle) TIA!

now i'm wondering why i bought front paddock stand

Thanks for the tip! I'll do that!

ok, looks like its feasible. I used a car jack at rear swing arm/frame slider for some support at rear, sorry don't have rear paddock yet Thanks for your replies!

I ride a 2016, and usually get on/off shudder on cold engine (1st 2-3 miles) if chain slack is on extreme end of spec on either side. Fix chain slack and/or warm up engine enough and life is good.

Has anyone used just front paddock stand and centre stand to lift front for wheel removal? Currently my bike is on centre stand with rear wheel already removed. Could i lift the front with paddock stand only (+ centre stand) with rear wheel already removed?

based upon your "won't be using anything else going forward." comment and backed up by cyclegear guy at the shop (though his 1st recommendation was 300v), i changed to motul 7100 yesterday. Oh boy!! what a difference! The motor just came alive. Feels like a different beast all together (for reference, 4000 miles earlier i used Mobil 1 4T racing). I was not checking engine temperature lately so don't know if running cooler, but its definitely less noisy (i can actually enjoy the exhaust note now). I picked up 2016 model (24k miles on it) 6 months ago (my first Yamaha) but was never impressed by it untill yesterday. Had a big smile all day today on a full day ride along twisties and freeways!

As long as someone else also got 7mph in gear (clutch pulled in) and took 6-7 revs to stop with foot (didn't i tell you it was weird? ) , i can stop worrying 🧘‍♂️and go for a ride 🏇 And thanks a lot for going through the pain to do all this just to bring a fellow rider to peace

Enquiring and curious minds indeed In gear with clutch pulled in, both before and after ride it spins at same speed 8mph. It stops putting foot against tire but it takes an effort (of course 'takes an effort' is relative)

Thanks for the reference. However if its just oil drag then it should slow down after engine/oil heats up. In my case it spins equally fast (8mph) whether engine is cold or hot.

Mobil-1 10W40 oil Clutch slack is OK. It starts to engage only after i've released slightly less than half way. Cold in neutral spins just a bit, but 8mph in 1st gear with clutch pulled in is baffling!