Grumpy Goat

The T700 would definitely be way better than the Tracer off road, the question is whether we would be. My position is that at least I shouldn’t be the limiting factor. Now that’s not to say that an off-road guru riding a Tracer wouldn’t be better than me riding Tiger, but at least now I have possibilities.

Yes we do have similar tastes, I guess except when it comes to the dash in the ‘21 T9GT, since it seems to be acceptable for you but a deal breaker for me. 😁 I will confess I had to look up the BMW G450X - sounds like a cool enduro bike and would make a hugely different alternative to any support road bike. Continued good luck with the 2019 Tracer and its replacement.

Good luck and enjoy the Tenere 700. I still commute and like to tour on my bikes, but I appreciate what you are saying regarding other careless / distracted persons using the road. Good luck to all of us out there.

Yes they have always treated me well.

Absolutely - https://rswasserboxer.com/R1200RSforum/ Do you have an RS?

Ahhhh … when I posted that they had not put it online yet so I didn’t know the price. They only put it up today with the price and you must have searched on their site. 🙂 I am very surprised that they put it at that price, to say the least. Shouldn’t last long. I would bet that they don’t realize that there are bag liners and an extra windscreen and various bits and packages in the panniers … that would be a nice surprise for the new owner.

It’s actually a steal at that price. How did you come across that?

Thanks for the kind words, Paddy. I will also miss the knowledge-sharing and pleasant chat here, in addition to the Tracer. I will continue to be an ambassador for the model, as I truly believe that it is one of the very best options in the sport tourer category.

Yes I know the Yankee Tavern and Orsaks, where some friends and I went for pie after a ride. Went to some place in Round Top years ago and had a burger which was great. I usually ride by myself to give the bikes some exercise, and don’t usually stop for anything until I get home.

I can agree with you on that score. If you are only going to ride on the road then I think that the Tracer 9 GT would be a better choice than the Tiger 900 GT as far as the powertrain goes. I like the sweetness of the Tracer's CP3 triple better than the T-plan crank and the 1-3-2 firing order of the Tigers, although I suppose I understand the need in the Rally versions. I was initially looking at the Tiger 900 GT but when I found that I could touch the ground on the Rally similarly to the Tracer (both seats in the low position) I decided to go with the Rally Pro.

Thanks Scott. So far I like it enough. I just went for a short ride before it got too hot and hit some pleasant twisties not too far away from my house and came back home in time for lunch here. Bike is growing on me especially since this is the test ride I should have been able to take before buying it. Handles very well on the road in the twisty stuff with that 21" front wheel. Never been to the Kenney Store (since I never heard of it) ... will give it a try one of these days.

Thanks Barry but time is too short. I run my own RS forum and supposedly moderate another, in addition to following along on the Tracer (and now Tiger) forum. But it’s true what you say that some stuff could be useful to all motorcycles.

Well after just shy of 2 years I have sadly parted with my beloved 2019 Tracer 900 GT, having traded it yesterday on a 2023 Triumph Tiger 900 Rally Pro. I have learned much on this Forum about the Tracers, and while I too look forward to seeing what the new T9GT+ will be in the flesh, I have decided to change direction on my second bike a little ... more toward the offroad side. Riding the two bikes back to bad as I did yesterday, the Tracer triple is still sublime, and I will miss that smoothness in its nature especially on long distance trips. The Triumph triple is quite different and will take getting used to. Anyway, that's it for now. I expect that my Tracer will be listed soon on the website of Woodlands Premium Motorcycles here in the Houston area, so if someone here is looking for a well-cared-for Tracer 900 GTwith all the useful mods I have installed you can check them out. Take care, y'all.

Why? They will just slow down to match you and they will still be there. I use adaptive cruise control (in my car) and I pay attention to my driving as it is possible to do both. Using ACC does not necessarily mean that one will pay less attention to what is going on. The important thing is that they are following at a safe distance behind you - something that is set with the ACC system. Also, as far as I am aware, vehicles with ACC also have the ability to apply brakes if they sense an emergency so even if the person were to have a lapse of attention the car would keep the situation safe. To each his own.

Why? They are so similar that it hardly makes sense (to me) ... You'd likely end up riding the GT+ more, I would guess.

Same here. Works well and SWMotech gear are typically excellent quality, and this tank bag is no exception.

Thanks for making that clarification. Since I don't have an autoblipper on my Tracer I cannot comment from personal experience on that bike, but I suspect that it is normal and part of the "feel" that you get with a cable actuated clutch.

But isn't that what forums are for ...? 😁 Especially during winter months or heat waves ... ?

My BMW has an autoblipper (as opposed to my 2020 Tracer 900GT) and when I do a clutchless downshift (or upshift) I do not feel it through the clutch lever. That bike has a hydraulic clutch. Other bikes I have ridden with auto blippers and hydraulic clutches work similarly to my BMW. My Tracer is the first bike I have ridden (as far as I can recall) that has a quickshifter and a cable clutch and I do not believe that clutchless shifts up transmits anything to the clutch lever, but then I am not feeling for it either, i.e. when I an quickshifting up my fingers are not on the clutch. One of the "reasons" I have found people like to use to justify a cable clutch (or excuse a lack of a hydraulic clutch) is for more "feel". I have not had the need for that feeling ...

Wasn't until I moved here that I saw all sort of crap on the road that I have never seen ... matresses, recliners, angle iron, parts of cars, etc. etc. I got several punctures here with various kinds of nail and once with a small allen wrench, if you believe that ... punched 2 hotes in my tire!

Exactly same here. Wish I could say the same about my other bike ... more like 5 mph max on that one. 😏

I totally agree and am glad you admitted as much ... 😉

In those 30 years do you feel that grip has increased ...?

Oh, thanks for the picture ... says a thousand words. That does not look too bad at all, actually. I think I could actually live with that, as there is a bit of a flat portion to the seat and the slope is reduced.

Hmmmm ... now a testimonial in the other direction, i.e. that the Comfort Seat does nothing for the slope flaw even with the shim kit. Thanks for the feedback.