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Hey man i sadly did not take pictures of the connector, and to be frank i have forgotten its location more or less. Towards the front, on the right side if im not mistaken. I found it pretty quickly after i took apart more (i.e all of the front fairing) not the lights etc but just all the exterior plastics. Sorry man im not much help. when you find it, make sure to take a picture heh...

Plenty of records of MANY bikes doing more than 60K km without the valve clearance moving beyond spec? Not saying i'd advice anyone with a tracer to wait that long, but not even close to being unheard of on many other bikes, probably stating the obvious, but worth mentioning i feel like... I had my old VFR 800 checked at 28.000 kilometers and it was dead on spec Letting a bike warm up (correctly) and treating it with a degree of mechanical sympathy obviously goes a long way. But obviously people also value different things in a bike, and not everyone wants to "baby" it around most of the time. Case and point the above youtuber, the way he changes gears when he tries to "get at it" to follow his friend onto the highway is EVERY reason i'd never let anyone but my dad ride my bike lol. I would not be shocked if he just guns it while its cold also... Mega cringe (in my opinion)

+1 to this, I did the same on min (186cm) Really helps reduce any annyoing buffeting and keeps air over my helmet pretty slow (nice and quiet) but i still get some air. No as much as i'd like when its proper hot... But thats what my sportscreen is for 😛

I think you might be looking for a different kind of vehicle there There is a solid difference (imo) between safety features (ABS/TC) and all kinds of assists (Cruise control, quickshifters and whatnot) I dont think anyone really wants the bike to ride itself? But i mean automatic braking in case i get distracted, why not? I get the "cant trust part" because obviously this isn't something you just test for shits and giggles. But assuming in a dystopian future full of even more mandatory rider aids, that a radar controlled auto braking system gets implemented / forced on all motorcycles. Would it not better to have a system that might be able to intervene or at least slow you down before an impact than nothing? Unless you think its going to make you crash? I guess it would suck if such a system gets spooked during a corner. Although you'd think it would be hooked up to an IMU, so it wouldn't activate during hard lean etc.

Cant even imagine how it must feel to throw in a small insult on a motocycle forum only to block the person you'v insulted immediately. 😅 Real powermove right there. I'll try to get over it Oh wait, wait a second I think i just did? ❤️

Glad to hear it, dont get scared off posting or commenting in other threads just because this specific thread turned so argumentative by the way. Hope you land yourself a good deal on a Tracer at some point!

Fine by me, i think Knyte made i quite clear that he was done bickering, and thats simply what i am doing. Its not a matter of winning (maybe it is for some) its just a matter of people being VERY black and white in their comments which i felt like OP did not deserve when he has asked what boils down to a pretty complex question. If you think your comment or comments like Kilo3 is what OP is after (or the one i have just written as a response to yours) thats fine, i dont moderate the forum. I just find this very dull.

I cant, just cant am very ready to end this, we agree on that. And for the record i apologize if you feel patonized, not my intention. Suggest a mod locks the thread before others like Kilo3 gets too excited, dont think thats what OP was after. Good day to you too.

Did someone hurt your fweelins? Sorry dude, hope you get over it. Way to go getting a snarky comment in, happy to have your contribution to the discussion (not) maybe just dont bother commenting next time.

Sums up my experience aswell! Its not like it was a challenge, but my god the instructions were balls haha. Same goes for installing the heated grips etc (i have the non GT spec) The front fairing is really easy to disassemble thankfully, but in terms of installing the grips and routing cables etc the instructions were borderline useless.

Mine only felt a little off during the run in period. Now its completely normal thankfully, i dont find it "different" to my mates bikes either, so its not a thing i got "used to" it just went away. I like the logic i heard of someone saying that there are additives in the factory oil making it ever so slightly more slippy.

Do you know or understand how cornering ABS/TC function? Your arguing the same way people were back when ABS was introduced to bikes. "I dont ride fast enough to need it" "im skilled enough" "I ride safe" Hillarious logic, but still present to this day in some riders. These systems are not MEANT to be activly used, they are in the background taking care of you if suddenly you hit a bit of loose pavement whilst you are trailbraking or on the gas out of a corner. It is again indisputable that the T9 is a safer motorcycle. The rider aiding technology is better. And no matter how hard you try you will not be able to make a convincing argument for anything other than this fact. "More bells and whistles equate to what, exactly? Safety??" Just wow lol the IMU is not what i would consider a gimmicky feature, its really good technology. Thats why ALL modern high'er end bikes come with these equipped. If you manage to kill yourself because you are fiddeling with the switch gear (no idea why you'd do that whilst moving) You set the bike up how you like and then dont ever touch the switch gear again lol. But IF you manage this, its simpel natural selection. The fact that you point out the addition of a menu system as a hardzard is just very meh... "What, exactly, makes newer models, as you insist, "safer"?" It's still subjective. I cannot be bothered to find more facepalm gifs, but i would insert one around here. No its not fking (excuse me) subjective, its absolutely unequivocally not subjective haha. It is in fact 100% factually true that the T9 has better safety systems, thus i will continue to insist that by definition it is a safer motorcycle.

My '15 does me just fine. I'll never reach speeds where that would matter it's all subjective No one can say which generation is 'best' I'd 100% agree if we were just talking some bells n' whistels being the difference. But when the vehicle is safer to operate and faster/smoother to boot and also has nicer bells n' whistels, i need arguments like this No one can say which generation is 'best' to die of death.

I just disagree immensly with this logic First point, no its not a new bike. -Still CP3 engine. -Same ergonomics. -Largely same characteristics (handeling/styling/practicality). -Same crappy windscreen issues 💩 Its not like they went from a Multistrada type bike to a Ducati Supersport S (both performance/tourers afaik) They just upgraded the Tracer 900, yes they made "big changes" but if you ride the Tracer 900 and T9 back to back you will feel them being similar (at least i did), and as far as i can tell from reviewers its not like they made a big deal out of saying just how much the T9 isn't like the Tracer 900. Secondly... " as far as "new and improved" does new automatically mean better?" I mean... This is a really strange question in the context of the discussion. Because obviously the changes to the new T9 have made it safer and faster, this is pretty indisputable i'd argue. With this established would you really argue that the T9 is not a better motorcycle? If a newcommer somehow gets the greatest deal on earth and can pick between a 0 miles Tracer 900 or a 0 miles T9, would you tell them hey by the way! -The ECU is not an upgrade -The engine upgrades are somehow not actual improvements -That the extra tech / suspension etc. is in fact not desireable. I really very much doubt you would. So what this argument really boils down to then i assume is if you + a couple others personally want a T9. Evidently you dont, you justify why you dont think its worth it to you. Fair game, but saying "new isn't better for everyone" is really hard to swallow if new is again a safer, faster vehicle.

I completely agree with everything you'v stated. I feel like i'v made that clear in my responses, price isn't what this is about. I would NEVER buy a T9 if i owned one of the older generations in good condition. The argument that i am having with a few of the users in this thread is that they are trying to sell the previous generations in a way that makes them sound superior to the T9+ generation, which i find frankly absurd. And to which i am yet to recieve convicing arguments other than "There is nothing about the new model that would make me want one over my 2020" or "forum members who are reporting issues and dislikes about their Tracer 9 GT" It strange because the new generation is NOT a new bike, its just incremental upgrades. Had Yamaha totally changed the Tracer i could understand why you could have users prefering the old model. But as it stands its basically just Tracer 9 = more better at everything. Yet you have comments brushing this aside as "upgrades that cater to personal preference"... Like yeah? IF your personal preference is an overall BETTER motorcycle, i think 99.99% of all bikers would recommend the "upgraded version" IF someone wants to buy a new bike.

Very fun indeed! I personally cant really get on board with how you make the older generation seem equal to the new one somehow. "some improvements/enhancements were for sure made in the eyes of some" personally i'd argue that you know, increased stabilily, better engine characteristics, better suspension, better (safer) eletronics etc. are improvements in the eyes of EVERYONE haha, except 2020- Tracer 900 owners maybe? You personally said yourself "There is nothing about the new model that would make me want one over my 2020" That is indeed an interesting statement seeing as there are MANY ways in which the T9 has improved on the Tracer 900. I am yet to find a way in which it has become WORSE, but apparently you know just how much worse the T9 in fact is compared to the Tracer 900 (in some aspects) i get that you dont think the T9 is an outright downgrade. But the way you are arguing the case for the tracer 900, it sure seems like you think there are people that would think the 900 would somehow be the better bike compared to the T9, i'd really like to know in which ways that would be.

I do not notice it anymore on mine, all three T9's i'v tried has had this and i personally ( + the owners of the other bikes) do not consider it a problem, as it is SUCH a small jerk that you really only notice it when you really want to notice it. Having recently ridden a 2017 Tracer 900 i can safely say the engine is noticeable smoother on the T9.

Up to you of course. I dont agree with it all being up to personal preference/experience, luckily we dont have to agree. @Larry1096 And luckily you can make up your own mind as to which direction to take. Just know OP that regardless of what you are told in here, all the issues with the T9 that it did have at release have been fixed (recalled etc). If you want the latest and greatest the T9 is probably what you should be looking for. Happy with giving up on mostly small, a few bigger generational improvements + save some bucks the Tracer 900 is a great bike too. Oh and for the love of god, regardless of which generation of Tracer you get, consider a different windscreen or some form of spoiler. It really will make your life better. Height/helmet/seating position all matters it seems as some people have luck with different mods. I only needed a spoiler/screen extender to solve the issue on my bike, but your milage may vary.

its not opinion if its literally in the stats sheet of the motorcycle?? The T9 is an upgraded Tracer 900, stating anything other than this is in fact arrogant. Although this is not a new trend, back when i owned a CB650 and the CB650R was released, many of the "old" CB owners were quick to defend their older bike and nitpick the newer (improved bike). Very unnessesary trend but alas. Luckily only very few people feel this need, otherwise we'd have to deal with even more useless "ugly Tracer 9 dash" threads lmao. Addressing the people with "dislikes" of the T9, i'd wager 99% of the same dislikes holds true had they owned a Tracer 900. I'd love for anyone to challenge that statement however. Except obviously if their dislikes included things like lack of stability at speed (improved on the T9), lack of power (unlikely but still improved on the T9), lack of high end electronics/gadgets (improved on the T9) better handeling / suspension (improved on the T9) etc etc. Nothing wrong with liking the Tracer 900, but factually the T9 is marginally better in the ways that should matter to most riders. (engine, handeling, electronics). Not going into looks as that is obviously personal preference.

Being correct makes me correct lol. I am confused as to how hard this is for you guys to compute, i am not nativly english so that may be it. If you truthfully believe that the Tracer 900 is "jUsT aS g000d" as the T9, that the improvements to the engine, electronics, suspension etc are just "incremental" and "not worth buying" comapared to "X beloved Tracer 900" Then fine You are just giving bad advice to people, you do you lmao.

Thats your response? How does that make anything i just said wrong? I mean okay, we now know "LOTS" of people on the forum (allegedly) are unable to see the many ways in which the T9 has been upgraded compared to the Tracer 900, fair. But that still does not make them correct lol.

No idea who says this The electronics are better on the 2021+ T9 The suspension idk, its really good on the base T9, haven't tried the GT. The frame is better (more sporty but still comfy) just mechanically better designed. Engine is improved (it is noticeable and worth it) This includes throttle response. All in all the T9 is in every single conceivable way a BETTER motorcycle than the 2020 Tracer 900 etc. Anyone who says otherwise are just not talking truth. The dash being the only point i guess someone can nitpick about, but again if you cant "use" the T9 dash you shouldn't be on a motorcycle, you are borederline blind if thats the case.

Have 100% experienced that yes My mechanic told me i was lugging the engine, twas not... My mechanic also managed to overtighten my chain, and overfil the oil at the last service, maybe time for a new mechanic haha.

1200x is what the Tracer would be if it decided to take up a career as a sumo wrestler Bigger in every way, but fantastic. I think i'd like the ridig position of the 1200x better than the clip-on style of my old bike. That V4 engine tho! 🤤