petshark Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 (edited) I just found out that the quickshifter works a lot better for me if I push the gear lever up slowly. I'm used to shifting quickly without the QS and never tried to do it differently with the QS. It seems that the electronics need a little more time to unload the engine than I've been giving. I've been using it in balls to the wall acceleration but found that I could shift smoother without the QS. But it works great in all gears if I do it slower. Maybe this can help someone in the same situation. Edited June 11, 2021 by petshark readability 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ride365 Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 Mine is the complete opposite, shift firm and quick and she also likes to be revving hard for the smoothest QS operation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petshark Posted June 11, 2021 Author Share Posted June 11, 2021 44 minutes ago, Ride365 said: Mine is the complete opposite, shift firm and quick and she also likes to be revving hard for the smoothest QS operation. Interesting. What happens when you do it slow? I met this riding instructor that also owns a 2019 Tracer and he said he never shifts without QS, even from 1st. His "trick" was to always shift at 4000 RPM. Trying that and finding that it doesn't work for me caused me to experiment with other things and finding the slow QS works a lot better on lower revs. On high revs a firm/quick movement works well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilo3 Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 3 hours ago, petshark said: His "trick" was to always shift at 4000 RPM. Urh, that's gotta be boring as hell. What a shame. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member Heli ATP Posted June 11, 2021 Supporting Member Share Posted June 11, 2021 Not sure how the quick-shifter is set up on the 900 but I added the Yamaha QS to my 2017 and had abrupt shifts until I figured out how to set it up properly. Online I found a reference to the proper length for the shift rod and it works perfectly now. I can quick shift from 1st on up. See this video for more.... QS Link updated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larolco Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 I find it smoothest to shift at around 8500 RPM. I don't bother with the QS at low RPM. Anything under 5 is kinda clunky. But I've never experimented with firm vs gradual input. I'll try that on the ride home this afternoon. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petshark Posted June 12, 2021 Author Share Posted June 12, 2021 16 hours ago, kilo3 said: Urh, that's gotta be boring as hell. What a shame. indeed but it's their job to teach the safest way possible to ride so I guess it's not that weird. 16 hours ago, Heli ATP said: Not sure how the quick-shifter is set up on the 900 but I added the Yamaha QS to my 2017 and had abrupt shifts until I figured out how to set it up properly. Online I found a reference to the proper length for the shift rod and it works perfectly now. I can quick shift from 1st on up. See this video for more.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTNOExAEsu8 this is really interesting. I had adjusted the height of the gear lever a few times and settled on 10 mm higher than stock. So according to this there is just a very limited range. I will check if I'm still in it. 12 hours ago, larolco said: I find it smoothest to shift at around 8500 RPM. I don't bother with the QS at low RPM. Anything under 5 is kinda clunky. But I've never experimented with firm vs gradual input. I'll try that on the ride home this afternoon. Let me know if it works. I used it the same as you before but now I can use it in city traffic as well if I want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidood Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 The other day using QS, a few times I found the 1-2 and the 2-3 shift was so beautiful I wanted to cry. This was under mild acceleration and RPM around 3-4K. Otherwise 95% of the time, the QS produces a somewhat annoying shock to the drivetrain regardless of RPM or throttle position. It just seems very inconsistent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larolco Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 On the ride home the other day, I messed around with varying shifter input. No difference whether firm or gentle. What does make a difference is RPM and whether or not you are accelerating. The key seems to be acceleration. The higher the RPM, the better. Shifting while holding a steady RPM, especially at lower RPM, seems to result in a clunky shift more often than not. Been meaning to mess around with the shifter adjustment as well. I'd like it to be a little higher than its stock setup, though now I think I've kind of become used to it. Initially, it drove me crazy having to dip a toe so low. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petshark Posted June 13, 2021 Author Share Posted June 13, 2021 1 hour ago, larolco said: On the ride home the other day, I messed around with varying shifter input. No difference whether firm or gentle. What does make a difference is RPM and whether or not you are accelerating. The key seems to be acceleration. The higher the RPM, the better. Shifting while holding a steady RPM, especially at lower RPM, seems to result in a clunky shift more often than not. Been meaning to mess around with the shifter adjustment as well. I'd like it to be a little higher than its stock setup, though now I think I've kind of become used to it. Initially, it drove me crazy having to dip a toe so low. I put it higher and it seems to have made the QS better. Haven't measured it yet but also messed around with it some more during a spirited ride today and while it always has worked well on high RPM's for me, I can get pretty consistent good QS shifts anywhere now. Still working on 1st to 2nd. One thing to add, slow is not really the right word... It is slower than a clutch shift but It's more that I keep my toe up for a moment instead of immediately releasing the lever back down. The QS seems to like that on mine. YMMV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larolco Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 23 hours ago, petshark said: One thing to add, slow is not really the right word... It is slower than a clutch shift but It's more that I keep my toe up for a moment instead of immediately releasing the lever back down. The QS seems to like that on mine. YMMV. Tried that this morning. No noticeable difference for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamajank Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 (edited) On 6/11/2021 at 12:15 PM, Heli ATP said: Edited June 14, 2021 by Yamajank My bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamajank Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 What is diagram "b" showing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skipperT Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 I think it’s the end of shifter, looking down the shaft (for lack of a better explanation). Basically, when you tighten the locknut, you don’t want the “Clevis” part of the shifter to be tightened so that’s it’s at one extreme or the other. You should be able to twist it freely back and forth slightly. The “clevis” part I am referring to is covered with a boot at either end. make sense? I can upload a pic of what I’m talking about if you want. -Skip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member Heli ATP Posted June 14, 2021 Supporting Member Share Posted June 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Yamajank said: What is diagram "b" showing? Look at the bottom of the pic... b. 15-25 degrees of rotation. So it is not bound tight. (I updated the link in my post above). Edit: Oops I was typing when Skipper was posting. Here is a pic of mine with booth pulled back... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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