cwjb Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 I decided to start a new thread because I'm having some weird cruise control issues that I haven't seen described anywhere else. Everything works exactly as it should- in 6th gear only. This will work at any speed and any rpm. It goes right into cruise mode, stays in as long as I want it to, comes right out when I use any of the canceling modes, and changes speed up and down with the buttons. In any other gear, the green light comes on, it goes into cruise mode just as it should and then anywhere from a couple of seconds to a few minutes the green light goes out and cruise stops. I had Ivan do a reflash and before this started and for a few weeks it worked as Ivan said it would - cruise at any speed and in any gear. I can't see anything changing inside the box so I'm sure that the problem isn't there. I've taken off the Evotech levers and put the stockers back on, adjusted the rear brake light switch, and had the front one replaced by a dealer. I pulled and cleaned the gear indicator switch and that didn't help. I thought about replacing it but it's $175. That would be okay if I was sure it was the problem. Thanx in advance for your thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRFan250 Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 Everything points to the switch but if it stays in cruise in 6th gear then that would disprove that theory. I would call Ivan and see what he says too.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwjb Posted August 22, 2021 Author Share Posted August 22, 2021 Yeah it's a real stumper. The switch doesn't have any moving parts - all it does is indicate gear position and it does that just fine. As for the reflash, he needed to hook the box up to a computer to change values inside. He did that and it worked like it was supposed to. You would think that you'd have to go back in the box for anything to change again. On a different note, I finally got that Seat Concepts saddle. We'll have to get together and check out each others seats. Uh hope that didn't sound too weird. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRFan250 Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 On 8/22/2021 at 7:20 AM, cwjb said: Yeah it's a real stumper. The switch doesn't have any moving parts - all it does is indicate gear position and it does that just fine. As for the reflash, he needed to hook the box up to a computer to change values inside. He did that and it worked like it was supposed to. You would think that you'd have to go back in the box for anything to change again. On a different note, I finally got that Seat Concepts saddle. We'll have to get together and check out each others seats. Uh hope that didn't sound too weird. Its usually not the gear switch but the clutch or brake safety switches....but again, if it works in 6th, that would not be the issue. I am sending my ECU to Ivan in a few weeks and I may leave cruise as is. Already got my Black widow exhaust waiting to go on too. On the seat front, I like the sargent and its better then stock but is in no way perfect. So, I decided to send my stock seat off to Seth Laam for a custom set up. He called me yesterday and I should have it by the end of next week. I hope this is the end of it, lol. How is the Seat Concepts?? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member fddriver2 Posted August 27, 2021 Premium Member Share Posted August 27, 2021 3 hours ago, CRFan250 said: How is the Seat Concepts?? I've been running a seat concepts for a couple years now. I like it just fine. That said. I rarely do more than ~160 miles in one run. and 450 miles in a day is about it. So. YMMV 3 "It doesn't matter who walks in, you know the joke is still the same" Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. USA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwjb Posted August 28, 2021 Author Share Posted August 28, 2021 It's a lot better than stock but I'm still wishing that I would have went with a custom right off the bat. I've got it in the hi front and lower back position so it looks kind of funky with the big gap at the tankbut that takes about all the forward slope out. I've always liked Seat Concepts but I wish they would have offered a taller option with this seat. You'll like Ivan. Very easy to work with. Let me know if you want to try out the reflash before you get it. Im really happy with it. I hope you have better luck with Seth Laam than I did. No complaints about the seat but the 5 months before that were a nightmare. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRFan250 Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 18 hours ago, cwjb said: It's a lot better than stock but I'm still wishing that I would have went with a custom right off the bat. I've got it in the hi front and lower back position so it looks kind of funky with the big gap at the tankbut that takes about all the forward slope out. I've always liked Seat Concepts but I wish they would have offered a taller option with this seat. You'll like Ivan. Very easy to work with. Let me know if you want to try out the reflash before you get it. Im really happy with it. I hope you have better luck with Seth Laam than I did. No complaints about the seat but the 5 months before that were a nightmare. Interesting. Yeah I have had many Ivan ECU flashes and even a couple of his jet kits. He is the man. My old FZ-09 flash was fantastic. Seth has been great quite honestly. Very nice guy...very busy. He called me Friday after about 6 weeks which was the expected lead time and will be shipping Tomorrow. Never had a custom seat so I pray its good, lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwjb Posted June 23, 2022 Author Share Posted June 23, 2022 On 8/21/2021 at 7:29 AM, cwjb said: I decided to start a new thread because I'm having some weird cruise control issues that I haven't seen described anywhere else. Everything works exactly as it should- in 6th gear only. This will work at any speed and any rpm. It goes right into cruise mode, stays in as long as I want it to, comes right out when I use any of the canceling modes, and changes speed up and down with the buttons. In any other gear, the green light comes on, it goes into cruise mode just as it should and then anywhere from a couple of seconds to a few minutes the green light goes out and cruise stops. I had Ivan do a reflash and before this started and for a few weeks it worked as Ivan said it would - cruise at any speed and in any gear. I can't see anything changing inside the box so I'm sure that the problem isn't there. I've taken off the Evotech levers and put the stockers back on, adjusted the rear brake light switch, and had the front one replaced by a dealer. I pulled and cleaned the gear indicator switch and that didn't help. I thought about replacing it but it's $175. That would be okay if I was sure it was the problem. Thanx in advance for your thoughts. Finally got this problem solved. It was time for a new chain so while I had it apart I put the original front sprocket back on.(had gone up a tooth) I only did it because I tried everything else. I have no explanation for it but the cc now works in every gear and at any speed or rpm. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilo3 Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 2 hours ago, cwjb said: Finally got this problem solved. It was time for a new chain so while I had it apart I put the original front sprocket back on.(had gone up a tooth) I only did it because I tried everything else. I have no explanation for it but the cc now works in every gear and at any speed or rpm. My guess is with the +1 up front and a worn chain, you were just outside the parameters for CC to work. Much like us that tried -1 in front. There's a happy medium that ol Yamaha accounts for. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill H Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Can you tell me what size socket for front nut ,,? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwjb Posted June 24, 2022 Author Share Posted June 24, 2022 Kilo3, The chain was still pretty fresh when I changed the sprocket. Somebody over on advrider suggested that the brain might be confused when it wasn't reading the usual rpm/gear numbers. Makes sense to me. Bill H. The wrench size for that nut is 30mm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wintersdark Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 12 hours ago, cwjb said: Kilo3, The chain was still pretty fresh when I changed the sprocket. Somebody over on advrider suggested that the brain might be confused when it wasn't reading the usual rpm/gear numbers. Makes sense to me. Bill H. The wrench size for that nut is 30mm Yeah. Mine was in the shop for a distressingly long time trying to diagnose why my CC wouldn't work - with Yamaha certified techs in direct communication with Yamaha engineering. Front sprocket changes break cruise control. Rear you can go +/- 2 teeth and still have it work. Though it's theoretically possible with odd sized tires or other factors that alter final gearing that you may go too far from stock and cause problems, I and many others have gone 2 teeth in the rear without problems. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwjb Posted June 25, 2022 Author Share Posted June 25, 2022 Thanx winterdark, that was my next question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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