troll Posted May 12, 2015 Author Share Posted May 12, 2015 First I want to state that I have no interest in a shet storm about Moto Machines. If you take a deep breath and look back I do not flog Moto... I say the promotional material here and on the H&B site. I actually offer that I will reserve judgement about Moto until I hear from Moto. I am not alone in being surprized be the product when it arrived. I am bright enough to know that the promotional materiel being displayed here belongs to H&B, And having twenty years in as a mechanic/welder/fabricator I more than likely understand the underside of my bike and possibly the complications around designing a functional "skid plate". I will graciously accept the offer to return the skirt for a full refund and I appreciate that as I do not want the product. Inadvertently I am still out around $100 in shipping and duty costs. I also currently have other products on order from Moto that are produced by H&B and expect them to arrive as advertised. The promotional photos fully show the product and I expect to be happy with the product. Coming to you from the frozen wastelands of the barren north Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motomachines Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 I'm going to go ahead and update the plate with the skid plate now, to avoid further confusion regarding this part. http://www.motomachines.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruizin Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 First I want to state that I have no interest in a shet storm about Moto Machines. If you take a deep breath and look back I do not flog Moto... I say the promotional material here and on the H&B site. I actually offer that I will reserve judgement about Moto until I hear from Moto. I am not alone in being surprized be the product when it arrived. I am bright enough to know that the promotional materiel being displayed here belongs to H&B, And having twenty years in as a mechanic/welder/fabricator I more than likely understand the underside of my bike and possibly the complications around designing a functional "skid plate". I will graciously accept the offer to return the skirt for a full refund and I appreciate that as I do not want the product. Inadvertently I am still out around $100 in shipping and duty costs. I also currently have other products on order from Moto that are produced by H&B and expect them to arrive as advertised. The promotional photos fully show the product and I expect to be happy with the product. @troll Sorry if the way I worded that came off prickly. Crap. I'm one of those guys that if I say something to ya in person, we laugh and bs for an hour. But when I type it out, it sometimes comes out wrong in translation. I guess as a Forum admin, I better work on that! Sorry bro Yamaha FZ-10 Forum Yamaha FZ-07 Forum Yamaha Ténéré 700 Forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troll Posted May 12, 2015 Author Share Posted May 12, 2015 Cruizin, no offence taken... I'm a pretty durable lad and take little personally. I worked for a bright director who once told me E-Mail is the worst form of communication when issues arise. It is one sided without the benefit of the nuance of inflection and visual cues. The receiver/reader applies their emotional referencing to what they are reading. We all do this to a greater or lesser degree depending how hooked up we are on the issue. Communication by any means is an art and few of us are artists. When I really need to be clear I do it in person or at the very least by phone (which I have done with Albert @ Moto Machines). Over 90% of our communication with others is non-verbal. Coming to you from the frozen wastelands of the barren north Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lawrenceofsuburbia Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 @troll Sorry if the way I worded that came off prickly. Crap. I'm one of those guys that if I say something to ya in person, we laugh and bs for an hour. But when I type it out, it sometimes comes out wrong in translation. I guess as a Forum admin, I better work on that! Sorry bro I guess we all know and understand the old saw [em]"measure twice, cut once". [/em]Same applies to e-mailing - type once, read twice, out loud if necessary. [em]Hmmmm[/em] - must try that some time... L of S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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