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{US} Tech Bulletin M2016-004 Cam Chain Tensioner Noise

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I just used an adjustable crescent wrench on that.. I have no idea whether or not the proper tension is on it but it's not making any weird noises so I guess that's good.

'15 FJ-09 w/ lots of extras...

Fayetteville, GA, USA

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I thought you had to take the cover off to make sure the chain didn’t skip a tooth when you replaced the tensioner? It sounds much easier if all you do is swap the tensioners.

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I thought you had to take the cover off to make sure the chain didn’t skip a tooth when you replaced the tensioner? It sounds much easier if all you do is swap the tensioners.
I installed the APE tensioner a few weeks ago. Before doing so, I read much of the mega-thread on the fz09 forum that discusses the installation in depth. The purposes of removing the cover are to get a feel for the tightness of the chain, and to put some tension on it before rotating the crankshaft.  
The guy who wrote the installation instruction did not initially remove the cover. Then he rotated the crankshaft after the tensioner was removed and the chain skipped a tooth. Therefore, he recommended that everyone else remove the cover and put some tension on the chain before rotating the crank. However, you don't have to rotate the crank so you can choose to leave the cover in place if you prefer. Then your feel for the tension on the chain will come indirectly through the tensioner and not directly from the chain. 
 
 

2015 red FJ-09: Cal Sci screen, Sargent seat, ECU flash, slider combo, cruise, Rizoma bars, Matts forks, JRi shock, slipper clutch

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Has anyone had this fixed at a dealer? My local dealer says they know about the bulletin but "theyve listened to so many of them and none have needed replaced.". Seems dumb, its a warranty job that can probably be done quicker than book time. I dont understand the opposition to it.
 
My bike is ticking on decel ('15 5k miles) and I suspect cct. Really dont want to buy an aftermarket manual tensioner.

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Has anyone had this fixed at a dealer? My local dealer says they know about the bulletin but "theyve listened to so many of them and none have needed replaced.". Seems dumb, its a warranty job that can probably be done quicker than book time. I dont understand the opposition to it.  
My bike is ticking on decel ('15 5k miles) and I suspect cct. Really dont want to buy an aftermarket manual tensioner.
 
Had mine done at my dealer and they gave me 0 trouble... less than a year later I started getting cam chain noise again. Put the APE manual tensioner in and now its quiet.
 
If you are suspecting cam chain tensioner issues, I would skip the TSB and put a manual tensioner on.
 

'15 FJ-09 w/ lots of extras...

Fayetteville, GA, USA

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I dont have a mechanics stethoscope but using a long screwdriver... It certainly sounds like the ticking is cct.
 
My problem with manual tensioners is I purchased the extended warranty. I realize aftermarket parts have to be proven to cause a failure, but I'd prefer to remain oem for the warranty period at least.
 
I guess the next step is have the dealer listen to it. On the phone they said it's oil which has thinned. Change it and it Will go away. So I went to them and purchased yamalube and filter. So if it doesnt quit ticking they cant tell me it needs an oil change.

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Mango- I don’t know if your dealer has heard it in person yet, but what you’re describing sounds like a classic case to me.
 
If it’s a service writer listening, ask for an actual experienced Tech or the service manager to listen instead.
 
If they still don’t think it’s an issue - go to another dealer, or call Yamaha corporate and explain to them (nicely) that you feel there’s an issue and your dealership isn’t helping you out.
 
They might reach out to the dealership on your behalf and “suggest” to the dealer that they need to perform the repair and that the dealer will get reimbursed.
 
FYI- it’s not an easy job to “beat the clock on”. Most warranty work doesn’t pay very well and the bolts that hold the tensioner on have loctite on them and you can’t get even a stubby 5mm socket on it. Using a ball end is also a recipe for rounding out the bolt. The access to the bolts are quite challenging with the engine installed in the frame.
 
Further, certain years have to have a bolt replaced in the valve cover to increase oil flow to the tensioner cavity.
 
-Skip

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Noticed a ticking that seems to have developed on the right side the last couple day. Can only hear it at idle and very low speed, but I see I now have a recall for the CCT, so I guess I'll give that a shot. Bike is a 16 with 22k miles on it now. Maybe I should just have them do the whole 24k service at the same time...

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Got the recall done. Ticking seems to have gone away, so I’ll ride it for a few weeks to see if it does seem better (I guess just by sound) and maybe have it checked at the 24k service.

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