gabefzr6 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 I have managed to find parts diagrams for the FJ to compare to the FZ. Rear suspension: It looks like the linkages are the same but the shocks have different part numbers. This could mean that they have improved the shock or just replaced it with an equally crappy one but with a different length. Either way, I don't expect it to be good enough for me. However, time will tell. Forks: The springs have different part numbers as well as the cartridges. My assumptions are the same as above. The Penske 8987 is what I am hoping for with the shock, but we will have to confirm the length first. I hope that GP Suspension will be doing a cartridge kit with compression adjustment for the FJ-09, since that is the direction I am leaning. 2008 Street Triple G 2015 FJ-09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducktape Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Good job Gabe! Where did you find the parts # for the FJ? I looked over the weekend at Yamaha Parts.something or other and they didn't have the Fj yet. I've got a shock I'm looking to get rebuilt . If it,the FJ shock, shared the part # with the FZ: My 8981 Penske would be on it's way to Penske for a face lift. http://shop.penskeshocks.com/8900-FORK-CARTRIDGE-KIT/ Here is another cartridge kit that might, maybe, should, would, probably will, Fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabefzr6 Posted November 17, 2014 Author Share Posted November 17, 2014 Good job Gabe! Where did you find the parts # for the FJ? I looked over the weekend at Yamaha Parts.something or other and they didn't have the Fj yet. I've got a shock I'm looking to get rebuilt . If it,the FJ shock, shared the part # with the FZ: My 8981 Penske would be on it's way to Penske for a face lift. http://shop.penskeshocks.com/8900-FORK-CARTRIDGE-KIT/ Here is another cartridge kit that might, maybe, should, would, probably will, Fit. Here is the link where I found the FJ-09(MT-09 Tracer) diagrams. http://www.yamaha-motor.eu/uk/services/online-parts-catalogue/index.aspx In the lower half of the page you will find the Parts Catalogue button. Thank you for the Penske link. I will either try the GP 25 mm kit or the Penske 25 mm kit for the forks. Assuming each company produces a kit. 2008 Street Triple G 2015 FJ-09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtgrant87 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 I have a feeling this bike will sell like crazy so I would think lots of companies would do fork kits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsteely Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 You know the stock suspension is pretty well sorted. I'm sure it can be improved on, but it's good enough that it's not an urgent need as was the case with the FZ. It's not just my opinion. I think you will find that most reviews bear this out. I would call it the best stock suspension of the dozen or so bikes that I have owned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruizin Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 I have heard many good reviews on the Stock suspension. But, we should ask Puddles. Puddles went and got her FJ-09 and took right off for Baja from San Francisco, and then back to San Fran. Whaddya say, Puddles? Did the suspension hold up ok? @puddles Yamaha FZ-10 Forum Yamaha FZ-07 Forum Yamaha Ténéré 700 Forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puddles Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I have heard many good reviews on the Stock suspension. But, we should ask Puddles. Puddles went and got her FJ-09 and took right off for Baja from San Francisco, and then back to San Fran. Whaddya say, Puddles? Did the suspension hold up ok? @puddles Hi Cruizin! In the corners the bike is solid- it seems planted and corners well. I really enjoyed the suspension in the corners...Although on the highway, when the road is bumpy, the bike suspension seems choppy/bouncy... it's not plush... I may play with the pre-load some... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotboot Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 A few articles during my research stated Yamaha increased damping by 3 X. That would explain the different part numbers. The high-speed (big bump) compression damping on this stock shock is brutal ! It seems to do well on little ripples, especially in corners. I'm a Penske guy, Traxxion is checking length and compatibility vs. the FZ09 or if they have an application for this new bike yet. I will most likely do the 8983 as the 8981's I own do a fantastic job with little fiddling. Subscribed to see what is found here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamwayne Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 I just took out the stock front (progressive) spring and replaced it with Ohlins 9N/mm (constant) spring for MT09/FZ09. I weigh 82kg and can now get correct sag in the front (no preload required). The stock valving and oil seems to provide enough rebound damping at the moment. Will take it out to the twisty tomorrow to get a real feel of the updated front end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamwayne Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Ohlins springs Stock spring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leedavis Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 I just took out the stock front (progressive) spring and replaced it with Ohlins 9N/mm (constant) spring for MT09/FZ09. I weigh 82kg and can now get correct sag in the front (no preload required). The stock valving and oil seems to provide enough rebound damping at the moment. Will take it out to the twisty tomorrow to get a real feel of the updated front end. Good for you! I'll be interested to read your evaluation. Being relatively inexpensive and potentially a big difference maker to the good, springs are my kind of upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotboot Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Good modification voodoo, the initial dive is caused by the soft progressive part of those springs. Let us know how it changed things for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamwayne Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Coming back for a quick report after fitting the Ohlins springs. I get ~40mm sag (~30%) without running any preload so the spring rate may be a bit too heavy for rider(+gear) weighing less than 80kg. Rebound is set 10 clicks clockwise with stock oil weight and oil level. I have no idea what the stock oil weight (10W maybe) or oil level is (did not measure it. The dealer told me that there is 444mL and 431mL of oil in left and right leg, respectively). There is noticeable improvement in handling. The front end is more planted and the wobbly feel at higher speed/while cornering is gone. Quick change in direction is crisper. The bike now dive less when braking and in a more consistent and controllable manner. I think the front could get a bit better if I play around with oil weight and level, but it is already acceptable for my type of riding (mountain road/Highway commuting). The second-hand springs plus labor cost me less than $100 USD and worth every penny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leedavis Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 There is noticeable improvement in handling. Thanks for the report! It sounds like I need to go ahead and get a service manual to fill in some of the blanks for installation procedure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member ULEWZ Posted February 27, 2015 Premium Member Share Posted February 27, 2015 Coming back for a quick report after fitting the Ohlins springs. I get ~40mm sag (~30%) without running any preload so the spring rate may be a bit too heavy for rider(+gear) weighing less than 80kg. Rebound is set 10 clicks clockwise with stock oil weight and oil level. I have no idea what the stock oil weight (10W maybe) or oil level is (did not measure it. The dealer told me that there is 444mL and 431mL of oil in left and right leg, respectively). There is noticeable improvement in handling. The front end is more planted and the wobbly feel at higher speed/while cornering is gone. Quick change in direction is crisper. The bike now dive less when braking and in a more consistent and controllable manner. I think the front could get a bit better if I play around with oil weight and level, but it is already acceptable for my type of riding (mountain road/Highway commuting). The second-hand springs plus labor cost me less than $100 USD and worth every penny. Great, now we need a How-To created and the measured length and width of the spring. Hint hint. To include measured fluid height from the top of the fork, fork oil viscosity, and anything else that might be useful. This is what I got from the Ohlins website: Length: 300 mm Rate N/mm: 9,0 N/mm Position: front Recommended oil: 01309 Oil level mm: 145 Packaging unit: pair Can somebody with a service manual check the fork oil level for me? A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul. George Bernard Shaw (1856-1950) Bikes: 2015 FJ-09, Seat Concepts seat cover and foam, Cal Sci medium screen, rim stripes, factory heated grips, Cortech Dryver tank bag ring, Modified stock exhaust, FlashTune with Graves fuel map, Cree driving lights, Aux power socket. 2012 Street Triple type R (Wifes) 2007 FJR1300 (Sold!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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