Premium Member DavidS Posted April 17, 2019 Premium Member Share Posted April 17, 2019 I commute 35-45 minutes each way to work. I bought a Sena 20S Bluetooth communication system for my helmet so I can listen to music and chat with my buddies when we do our annual summer treks. I have been using in-ear buds, which plug directly into the Sena unit on the side of the helmet. This setup works pretty well, the ear buds help protect my ears from the engine and wind noise, but let me clearly hear the music or radio. The problem? It is a pain in the butt to get the ear buds in, route the cords so it doesn’t bind when I turn my head, and make sure everything is connected and working. And I have to do it each time I start the bike. I tried scrapping the headphones and listening to the internal helmet speakers directly, but without something in my ears, the engine and wind noise was too loud to hear the music well, and it hurt my ears. When I put ear plugs in, I couldn’t hear the music very well. Ideally I would like a set of ear buds that are comfortable to wear, let the music through, yet block the engine and road noise. (if such a thing actually exists) Anyone have any suggestions? and what do you use on your bike during commuting and/or long trips. Thanks, David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member micah2074 Posted April 17, 2019 Premium Member Share Posted April 17, 2019 I listen to music through my Cardo speakers with ear plugs in and can hear it just fine. Maybe upgrade your speakers? 2 Let’s go Brandon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitecrow Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 33 minutes ago, micah2074 said: Maybe upgrade your speakers? This. I’ve been researching better speakers for my Sena20s as well and I’ve been reading really good reviews about the iASUS brand of helmet speakers. Plug and play with the sena just like you do now with your ear buds only the speakers stay in the helmet obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member texscottyd Posted April 17, 2019 Supporting Member Share Posted April 17, 2019 Hi @DavidS - I use a Sena 20s with the standard helmet speakers in my Shoei RF1200, and have had really good luck with the music quality. I wear earplugs all the time, but I can hear the music just fine, while filtering out much of the background and wind noise. I use off-the shelf Mack’s foam orange plugs (NRR 33 dB). What I have noticed is that the helmet speaker location is critical, and can be tricky to get right. The speaker pockets in my Shoei aren’t quite large enough to fit the standard Sena speakers, so I’ve spent a lot of time getting the speakers positioned exactly where I want them. I’ve got it adjusted so that the foam speaker covers just BARELY make contact with my ear... comfortable, and the music comes through loud and clear. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duhs10 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 I also use a SENA 20S and have had no issues with the speakers. I ride with ear plugs also. 1 '15 FJ-09 w/ lots of extras... Fayetteville, GA, USA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bugie Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 I use a Cardo system. When using the Cardo speakers alone I have the same problem. For longer rides I usually use custom moulded noise cancelling ear plugs (designed specifically for motorcycles). These drown out the wind and traffic noise and make the Cardo speakers much easier to use. To be clear i don't mean the music type of noise cancelling ear plugs but the safety type as per below: Earplugs for motorcyclists - no more wind noise in your helmet WWW.ALPINEHEARINGPROTECTION.COM After motorcycling, do you have problems with ringing in your ears? This is due to the noise to which you are exposed. In particular... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member keithu Posted April 17, 2019 Premium Member Share Posted April 17, 2019 I have the Sena SMH10 and wear earplugs. At highway speed I can more or less hear music, but it's not real clear and I can't listen to news above about 50mph. I'll have to look at options for upgraded speakers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitown Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Have had helmet speakers but never enjoyed them. If you do stick with earbuds, took some trial and error but the Etymotic MC5 come with a variety of washable rubber and foam tips and one of them works great for me. All day comfortable, good quality, can still hear emergency vehicles. Been using them (and the ER6 model that preceded them) for ten plus years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member clint Posted April 17, 2019 Premium Member Share Posted April 17, 2019 Here's what I did, bought these: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01H3CQ64Q/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 and this: https://www.amazon.com/Radians-CEP001-Custom-Molded-Earplugs/dp/B003A28P0M?th=1 Then used the combination of the two to make a nice set of custom molded earbuds that work perfectly with my bluetooth communicators. Effective, comfortable noise attenuation that stays in the ear and allows you listen clearly to the music or communications at a lower volume. 1 Piedmont of NC '15 FJ-09 '94 GTS-1000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member estell Posted April 17, 2019 Premium Member Share Posted April 17, 2019 I use the Bluetooth version of the Shure SE215. They are sound-isolating earphones with good audio quality. If you like good audio, then this is better than using earplugs and speakers. They attenuate wind and road noise up to 37 dB which is better than most earplugs. That is enough that you can play the audio at normal levels (not loud) and avoid hearing damage. You can still hear things like sirens because 37 dB is not enough attenuation to eliminate loud high-pitched sounds like that. They run 6 hours on a charge. The Bluetooth module contains control buttons but they are not meant for use with gloves. 1 2015 red FJ-09: Cal Sci screen, Sargent seat, ECU flash, slider combo, cruise, Rizoma bars, Matts forks, JRi shock, slipper clutch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member piotrek Posted April 17, 2019 Supporting Member Share Posted April 17, 2019 Also a commuter... about 50km each way, some highway. Cardo inside RPHA 70 works very well. I wear Pinlock ear plugs and hear music/speech clearly at highway speeds. I second what @texscottyd said... speaker positioning makes a big difference. Also noticed an improvement since upgrading my helmet from the budget priced Bell Vortex. Hope you find a solution. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member micah2074 Posted April 18, 2019 Premium Member Share Posted April 18, 2019 I'm considering a RHPA 70 to replace my schuberth. Let’s go Brandon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
open1mind Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 So after 30 years of riding and lot of experimenting... here is the money is no object choice: Get your phone bluetoothed into a Sena or Cardo system Plug these into your ears- CUSTOM STEREO EARPLUG SPEAKERS WWW.PLUGUP.COM under helmet earplugs,custom made in the ear stereo earspeakers, low profile for under helmet applications Then, enjoy protection for your hearing with the ability to take phone calls and hear music on your own terms with voice commands etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rrm512 Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 16 minutes ago, open1mind said: So after 30 years of riding and lot of experimenting... here is the money is no object choice: Get your phone bluetoothed into a Sena or Cardo system Plug these into your ears- CUSTOM STEREO EARPLUG SPEAKERS WWW.PLUGUP.COM under helmet earplugs,custom made in the ear stereo earspeakers, low profile for under helmet applications Then, enjoy protection for your hearing with the ability to take phone calls and hear music on your own terms with voice commands etc. I also have these and they work great. I upgraded from the SPlugs as I have small ear canals and they would bother me on long days. I will say I prefer the amount of road noise I could hear with the SPlugs, the custom plugs isolate me more than I would like. Great product and customer service, both are repairable too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBB Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Cardo now do a 45mm speaker upgrade. 45mm AUDIO SET WWW.CARDOSYSTEMS.COM 45mm speakers set and matching software for the ultimate sound experience You could always splice these into an existing system you have, if it’s not got a jack plug. I use a Sena 10u which fits inside my Schuberth helmet. It was initially poor sound, but positioning the speakers correctly, as stated by others, made all the difference. I wear pinlock ear plugs and this setup is quiet in terms of road and wind noise, but I can still hear the music, albeit at reduced volume. 1 Red 2015 Tracer, UK spec (well, it was until I started messing with it...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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