Another Cracked Oil Pan

[foxtrot722]

This is my first time experiencing this problem, but many others have. 

My 2015 with the bottom drain plug finely caught up with me. was getting fuel about 200 mile from home, in the pouring rain, misjudged a little step down, bottom of bike just barley touched, just enough to feel, pulled back under fuel pump area and inspect. After about 2 minutes, saw that one little drop of oil. Rented an U-Haul 5X9 trailer and trailered the bike 200 miles to home. So the good part is, caught it as soon as it happened. 

Call the dealer where I purchased the bike, spoke with service Manager and explained the bottom drain design error and Yamaha attempted to correct the problem with a redesigned drain that was located on the side. 

Taking that into consideration,  would he provide a discount on the parts needed to make the repairs. 

After getting pricing, looks like to me the pricing they offered was retail. based that on a Yamaha Parts web site that was offering parts at a 40 % discount. When I added up the web parts cost and added about 40% to it, it was near what the dealer quoted me. 

Needless to say, I was a little miffed that the dealer didn't appear to offer any discount. The next time I am close by, I'll stop in and ask to speak to the Dealer Manager, only fair to let him know they have lost a customer and I won't rely on them for new bike sales, parts, or service. 

I was aware of the Mazda mod, but felt consider I ride solo and am cautious about clearance, I could avoid hitting something. Which was not the case. Remember, the bump was so light, I barely felt it. 

For those of you that might want to switch to a side drain pan, below is a part list I ordered. The online part number page showed the new part # for the pan and also a new part # for the 15 screws to mount. I was not able to tell if the screws for the new pan was longer or shorter, so I ordered them also. 

This leads to a question, was looking a the two skid pans Twisted Throttle offers, just don't really like the look, but not sure if there are any better choices. Anyone have any suggestions?

     . .Gasket
Item #214-11198-01-00    $1.60    3    $4.80

     Gasket, Exhaust Pipe
Item #4FM-14613-00-00    $5.15    3    $15.45

     Element Assy, Oil Cleaner
Options: Old Sku: 5GH-13440-50-00
Item #5GH-13440-60-00    $8.08    1    $8.08

     . .O-Ring
Item #5VY-8A8E0-00-00    $4.42    2    $8.84

     . Plug, Straight Screw
Item #90340-14132-00    $5.88    1    $5.88

     Bolt, Hexagon Socket Head
Options: Old Sku: 91312-06025-00
Item #91317-06025-00    $1.90    15    $28.50

     Strainer Cover Assy
Options: Old Sku: 1RC-13400-00-00
Item #B56-13400-10-00    $131.45    1    $131.45

     Gasket, Strainer Cover
Options: Old Sku: 1RC-13414-00-00
Item #BD5-13414-00-00    $11.74    1    $11.74
 
 
 
Subtotal:     $214.74
Shipping:     $23.49
Salestax:     $0.00
Order Total:     $238.23

 

Edited April 23, 2019 by foxtrot722

[norcal616]

Higdonion Cages... 2 or 3 different styles of lower cages and an upper cage option... He just released a newer update design also...

[chitown]

1 hour ago, foxtrot722 said:

This is my first time experiencing this problem, but many others have. 

My 2015 with the bottom drain plug finely caught up with me. was getting fuel about 200 mile from home, in the pouring rain, misjudged a little step down, bottom of bike just barley touched, just enough to feel, pulled back under fuel pump area and inspect. After about 2 minutes, saw that one little drop of oil. Rented an U-Haul 5X9 trailer and trailered the bike 200 miles to home. So the good part is, caught it as soon as it happened. 

Call the dealer where I purchased the bike, spoke with service Manager and explained the bottom drain design error and Yamaha attempted to correct the problem with a redesigned drain that was located on the side. 

Taking that into consideration,  would he provide a discount on the parts needed to make the repairs. 

After getting pricing, looks like to me the pricing they offered was retail. based that on a Yamaha Parts web site that was offering parts at a 40 % discount. When I added up the web parts cost and added about 40% to it, it was near what the dealer quoted me. 

Needless to say, I was a little miffed that the dealer didn't appear to offer any discount. The next time I am close by, I'll stop in and ask to speak to the Dealer Manager, only fair to let him know they have lost a customer and I won't rely on them for new bike sales, parts, or service. 

I was aware of the Mazda mod, but felt consider I ride solo and am cautious about clearance, I could avoid hitting something. Which was not the case. Remember, the bump was so light, I barely felt it. 

For those of you that might want to switch to a side drain pan, below is a part list I ordered. The online part number page showed the new part # for the pan and also a new part # for the 15 screws to mount. I was not able to tell if the screws for the new pan was longer or shorter, so I ordered them also. 

This leads to a question, was looking a the two skid pans Twisted Throttle offers, just don't really like the look, but not sure if there are any better choices. Anyone have any suggestions?

     . .Gasket
Item #214-11198-01-00    $1.60    3    $4.80

     Gasket, Exhaust Pipe
Item #4FM-14613-00-00    $5.15    3    $15.45

     Element Assy, Oil Cleaner
Options: Old Sku: 5GH-13440-50-00
Item #5GH-13440-60-00    $8.08    1    $8.08

     . .O-Ring
Item #5VY-8A8E0-00-00    $4.42    2    $8.84

     . Plug, Straight Screw
Item #90340-14132-00    $5.88    1    $5.88

     Bolt, Hexagon Socket Head
Options: Old Sku: 91312-06025-00
Item #91317-06025-00    $1.90    15    $28.50

     Strainer Cover Assy
Options: Old Sku: 1RC-13400-00-00
Item #B56-13400-10-00    $131.45    1    $131.45

     Gasket, Strainer Cover
Options: Old Sku: 1RC-13414-00-00
Item #BD5-13414-00-00    $11.74    1    $11.74
 
 
 
Subtotal:     $214.74
Shipping:     $23.49
Salestax:     $0.00
Order Total:     $238.23

 

Bummer. 

Swapped mine before any damage and the only parts needed were the Strainer Cover Assy, and Gasket, Strainer Cover. Pan came with a new drain plug and drain plug gasket. All other parts were reused -- tho I'd have ordered exhaust gaskets as well if I hadn't done this pretty early on. 

(11.38 + 131.44) - 5% Time To Ride coupon + tax/shipping from yocracing.com. 

 

[foxtrot722]

51 minutes ago, norcal616 said:

Higdonion Cages... 2 or 3 different styles of lower cages and an upper cage option... He just released a newer update design also...

Thanks, I'll take a look

[foxtrot722]

22 minutes ago, chitown said:

Bummer. 

Swapped mine before any damage and the only parts needed were the Strainer Cover Assy, and Gasket, Strainer Cover. Pan came with a new drain plug and drain plug gasket. All other parts were reused -- tho I'd have ordered exhaust gaskets as well if I hadn't done this pretty early on. 

(11.38 + 131.44) - 5% Time To Ride coupon + tax/shipping from yocracing.com. 

 

I may have missed that the drain plug and gasket was included, if so, I'll have a extra drain plug, ordered 3 drain plug gaskets, I believe it is recommended you replace the gasket each time, however, I have been reusing them for years and haven't had a problem. The biggest thing I learned long years ago was to use a quality torque wrench to tighten the drain plug. 

[Duke]

Crud, I suppose I’m going to have to install my Mazda plug at the next oil change, but I really like the one I’m using because it has a built in magnet.

Maybe I’ll splurge and spend money now on a Higdonion to protect my pan rather than spending it later on a new pan. Then I could use my fancy drain plug. 

[foxtrot722]

12 minutes ago, Duke said:

Crud, I suppose I’m going to have to install my Mazda plug at the next oil change, but I really like the one I’m using because it has a built in magnet.

Maybe I’ll splurge and spend money now on a Higdonion to protect my pan rather than spending it later on a new pan. Then I could use my fancy drain plug. 

Considering the $160 for the U-Haul trailer rent plus the parts, I agree the Higdonion would be the way to go. I was lucky the wives were not far away and their vehicle has a trailer hitch. If I was 200 miles from home and no one in the area, would have made this more difficult on several levels. Unless I see something better, probably look at getting the Higdonion. The only downside I see is I have forward mounted frame sliders mounted for the sole purpose of having somewhere to rest my legs and feet on a long ride, it really makes a difference. 

Edited April 24, 2019 by foxtrot722

[norcal616]

Others have mounted highway pegs on the cage... And I have the full cage version and it keeps the radiator clean and road blast off the front of my motor...

[Duke]

1 hour ago, foxtrot722 said:

Considering the $160 for the U-Haul trailer rent plus the parts, I agree the Higdonion would be the way to go. I was lucky the wives were not far away and their vehicle has a trailer hitch. If I was 200 miles from home and no one in the area, would have made this more difficult on several levels. Unless I see something better, probably look at getting the Higdonion. The only downside I see is I have forward mounted frame sliders mounted for the sole purpose of having somewhere to rest my legs and feet on a long ride, it really makes a difference. 

I hadn’t even considered the cost of a U-Haul. This is beginning to look like something that bears further investigation. 

[fddriver2]

https://www.motea.com/en/catalog/product/view/id/103062/s/motor-schutz-yamaha-mt-09-tracer-15-18-schwarz-inkl-montageset-importiert-70000241100/

[foxtrot722]

1 hour ago, fddriver2 said:

https://www.motea.com/en/catalog/product/view/id/103062/s/motor-schutz-yamaha-mt-09-tracer-15-18-schwarz-inkl-montageset-importiert-70000241100/

Another nice looking engine guard, thanks for posting, but still leaning toward the Higdonion

[Cruizin]

The @higdonion model is the way to go. His revised guard is rock solid, gets the job done and looks great. Plus, he supports this forum in many ways. 

[Cruizin]

4 hours ago, Duke said:

Crud, I suppose I’m going to have to install my Mazda plug at the next oil change, but I really like the one I’m using because it has a built in magnet.

Maybe I’ll splurge and spend money now on a Higdonion to protect my pan rather than spending it later on a new pan. Then I could use my fancy drain plug. 

@higdonion is the way to go

[koth442]

If you go the @higdonion route, which I recommend, keep the older style drain pan. It will make oil changes less messy.

[brewhaha]

i really need to get that higdonion.