Supporting Member piotrek Posted November 26, 2019 Supporting Member Share Posted November 26, 2019 Honest question... want to understand why the stock MC is considered so poor. I understand it's manufactured to a price point, but Brembo still felt good enough to stamp their logo on the reservoir cover. Surely not a race-ready part, but still... what gives? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member betoney Posted November 26, 2019 Supporting Member Share Posted November 26, 2019 6 minutes ago, piotrek said: Honest question... want to understand why the stock MC is considered so poor. I understand it's manufactured to a price point, but Brembo still felt good enough to stamp their logo on the reservoir cover. Surely not a race-ready part, but still... what gives? What are radial brakes and why do modern sportbikes have them? - RevZilla Radial calipers and radial master cylinders explained. 1 ***2015 Candy Red FJ-09*** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member piotrek Posted November 26, 2019 Supporting Member Share Posted November 26, 2019 22 minutes ago, betoney said: What are radial brakes and why do modern sportbikes have them? - RevZilla Radial calipers and radial master cylinders explained. Nice read... thanks. I really shouldn't have read it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member fjray Posted December 12, 2019 Premium Member Share Posted December 12, 2019 On 11/25/2019 at 8:46 PM, piotrek said: Nice read... thanks. I really shouldn't have read it. Well now I have to read it after seeing this. I do appreciate the info on this site. Winter is just starting so now we moan, and wrench. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member piotrek Posted March 31, 2020 Supporting Member Share Posted March 31, 2020 Some notes re: Galfer brake line kit for the FJ (bought on sale at RMATV)... the kit came mislabelled as front only. It was short on hardware (two clamps... no grommets) and what was there was poor quality. I ended up buying rubber-lined automotive brake line P-clamps and repurposed/made some grommets from OE lines. The lines themselves looked pretty solid. Banjo fittings on the rear lines could have been angled better at the ABS pump. I reached out to Galfer with photos, and they confirmed the install looked per design intent. Had to improvise a bit here and there to make things work with the raised bar, i.e. could not use OE line routing. Overall happy with the install. Saved a bit of money, but it did come with a fair bit of head scratching. More the reason to celebrate when it finally comes together I suppose. Removed the OE rear brake switch hardware and replaced with a Vortex hydraulic switch... it works, and cleans up the rear-set a bit. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member texscottyd Posted March 31, 2020 Supporting Member Share Posted March 31, 2020 Thanks @piotrek - I also have a set of Galfer lines (the full 5-line kit) waiting to be installed. I was going to do it last weekend when I had all the bodywork off, but got a bit overwhelmed and decided it could wait. Seeing yours complete makes me feel inspired to get back in there soon. Did you just follow the detailed instructions with the kit? I seem to recall there being electronic instructions from Galfer somewhere... video or online pdf maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member betoney Posted March 31, 2020 Supporting Member Share Posted March 31, 2020 5 minutes ago, texscottyd said: Thanks @piotrek - I also have a set of Galfer lines (the full 5-line kit) waiting to be installed. I was going to do it last weekend when I had all the bodywork off, but got a bit overwhelmed and decided it could wait. Seeing yours complete makes me feel inspired to get back in there soon. Did you just follow the detailed instructions with the kit? I seem to recall there being electronic instructions from Galfer somewhere... video or online pdf maybe? Scott, as long as the lines are labeled it should be pretty easy even w/o instructions, one end of each line goes to the pump and the other goes to either MC or caliper, the 5th line is just a cross over for the front calipers. Long lines are front, short lines are rear. 1 ***2015 Candy Red FJ-09*** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitown Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 12 minutes ago, texscottyd said: Thanks @piotrek - I also have a set of Galfer lines (the full 5-line kit) waiting to be installed. I was going to do it last weekend when I had all the bodywork off, but got a bit overwhelmed and decided it could wait. Seeing yours complete makes me feel inspired to get back in there soon. Did you just follow the detailed instructions with the kit? I seem to recall there being electronic instructions from Galfer somewhere... video or online pdf maybe? Galfer FJ-09 5 line instructions https://galferusa.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/D809-5-Instructions.pdf 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member piotrek Posted March 31, 2020 Supporting Member Share Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) On 3/31/2020 at 7:23 PM, texscottyd said: Thanks @piotrek - I also have a set of Galfer lines (the full 5-line kit) waiting to be installed. I was going to do it last weekend when I had all the bodywork off, but got a bit overwhelmed and decided it could wait. Seeing yours complete makes me feel inspired to get back in there soon. Did you just follow the detailed instructions with the kit? I seem to recall there being electronic instructions from Galfer somewhere... video or online pdf maybe? Generally followed the Galfer PDF. The images are distorted (as confirmed by Galfer), but the general idea is there. I can take a bunch of photos if you'd like. The mid mount (under the seat) was a pain. Used the provided double line clamp, but had to do some bending. No grommets of any kind, so you'll have to strip OE lines as best you can (split and peel). Maybe my kit was just an anomaly and yous is a proper/complete set... take stock of what you have before you start the work. Edited April 3, 2020 by piotrek 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member texscottyd Posted April 1, 2020 Supporting Member Share Posted April 1, 2020 Thanks for the link @chitown! I knew there was something out there to reference. @piotrek, @betoney, et al... did you guys remove the bodywork & tank when you did the brake line install? I was looking at everything when I had it all apart this weekend, and it seemed a bit less imposing when you could look down on everything from the top. Probably not necessary, but perhaps helpful? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member betoney Posted April 1, 2020 Supporting Member Share Posted April 1, 2020 Just now, texscottyd said: Thanks for the link @chitown! I knew there was something out there to reference. @piotrek, @betoney, et al... did you guys remove the bodywork & tank when you did the brake line install? I was looking at everything when I had it all apart this weekend, and it seemed a bit less imposing when you could look down on everything from the top. Probably not necessary, but perhaps helpful? Yes, I removed everything down to the airbox for easier access. 1 ***2015 Candy Red FJ-09*** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBB Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 Did you get the system bled okay @piotrek? Air in the ABS pump could be difficult to remove. Red 2015 Tracer, UK spec (well, it was until I started messing with it...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member piotrek Posted April 1, 2020 Supporting Member Share Posted April 1, 2020 8 hours ago, BBB said: Did you get the system bled okay @piotrek? Air in the ABS pump could be difficult to remove. Eventually... but it took a couple of rides (activated the ABS several times) , bleeding after each ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member piotrek Posted April 1, 2020 Supporting Member Share Posted April 1, 2020 13 hours ago, texscottyd said: ...did you guys remove the bodywork & tank when you did the brake line install?... I had the bike all apart for maintenance so had it all in the open. In any case, to complete alternate routing I needed to have the airbox out of the way. Might also help you in removing OE lines. Once you remove the plastics and the tank... might as well give yourself some extra space to see and work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xstoff Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Hi everybody, I'd like to attempt that thing... I'm still questioning myself about the little block on the OEM lines that olds them under the steering... @betoneysince you did it with the spiegler lines (that's the want I'd like to get), did they send something to hold there? I don't want to ask too much, but if you could post a picture of that area, that would be awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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