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Turd Ferguson

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  1. On 11/13/2022 at 3:57 PM, Warchild said:

    I convinced myself early on that I would just leave the stock exhaust alone - but you know how that goes... 😆

    I was bummed to learn that many (but not all) aftermarket exhaust systems only work without a center-stand. Others had a high upswept canister angle that is not friendly to the factory hard cases.  But then I learned that Yamaha had licensed Yoshimura to manufacture a full exhaust system specific to my model-year GT, that allows full use of center-stand and factory bags. The 'Y-Series" part number for it is:

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    Unfortunately, Yoshimura has long ago ceased production of this specific model exhaust, since the bike itself changed drastically in the 2021 model year. Happily, my awesome Parts Manager at my dealer has strong ties with the Yamaha Supply system in Georgia, where there were still eight (8) of these full exhaust systems sitting on a shelf, still NIB. 

    Now there are only 7, 'cuz I scored one of these NIB Yosh full exhaust systems, now sitting in my garage - it's one of several winter projects:
     

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    It may be a while I get to the installation - I am still riding as long as snow stays away.

    Dunno what you paid, but the Dominator system is pretty much exactly the same and probably costs a third of the Yoshi

  2. Good luck Yamaha selling these in the US! The major issue with this model will be the price point for what you get and how close it is to the next class up.  Pricing will be almost $2k more than a standard Tracer GT and $3 k more than a Suzuki GSX-S GT+. Plus with the 2024 price increase to surely follow, the GT+ will creep above $17k! Looking at 2023 EU pricing (attached; 2023 Tracer 9GT+ is EUR 16,899 list in Germany) plus the annual price increase of around 300 to 400 dollars for the 2024 model is where the 2024 version will launch in the US.  For me to be competitive at this price Yamaha would have to amp up the engine to around 150 hp, which I think they could easily do, and I would consider it. With the current drivetrain that price is no bueno for me. Yamaha already has a really difficult time selling all the Tracers in the US market as it is and I think once you get into that price class it would be even harder. 

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  3. On 3/15/2023 at 12:19 PM, Turd Ferguson said:

    Finally fitted the HP8 EX. Pretty straightforward install. The fit and finish of the system are absolutely first rate .. as good as anyone including Akro. Looks are also fantastic but it has a painful drone from idle to 5k rpm without the db killer. It's impossible to stand. With the db killer it is tolerable. The issue is not that the system is loud because it isn't really loud. The issue is that the muffler exit is right below your ears and an engine drone reflects back from the ground straight into your ears. Will give it some time to see if I can live with it. NOTE: If you buy one ... the db killer does NOT come with it. YOu have to order it and pay extra. I bought directly from Dominator in Poland and paid in Zloty. That gives the best price which was $650 delivered to my door incl. db killer.

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    So ... I bought a few more DB killers from Dominator (One hard and two medium) and did my own testing. WARNING: YOu can only install the hard DB killer if you cut off the end cap at the DB killer inlet! Otherwise it will at least melt your carbon cap and maybe more! My first mod was to take my medium DB killer and cut the tube out of it leaving just the constriction at the mounting flange but NO tube. This is my favorite combination. Great sound and no more drone than with the unmodified medium DB killer! You have to use a Dremel cutting wheel and cut the weld off from the outlet side to give it a smooth opening! The tube is just inserted into the DB killer flange and then TIG welded from the outlet side. Cut that weld from the inside of the tube with a dremel cutting wheel, then smooth and polish it and you get a perfect venturi opening and no obstacles or sharp edges. This is by far my favorite way to eliminate drone and get great sound that is much better than with the intact medium DB killer. My next favorite would be the hard DB killer with the tube block-off cut-off.

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  4. 5 hours ago, RaYzerman said:

    The 2023 has not been released in North America.......... reportedly leftover 21's and 22's to get rid of.....

    Yamaha did not supply their dealers with any sufficient bikes last year ... that is until about September when they began flooding dealers with bikes. I bought my 22 T9GT from a dealer who ahd gotten 7 tracer GT in September and who was fearful he had to carry them all winter (I think Yamaha floor plan only covers one month interest, then the dealers have to pay the interest). He discounted them by $3000 off of list (plus fees). 3 sold right away including me buying one at $12,249 plus taxes and fees. He then raised the price of the remaining 4 to 13,988 and didn't sell a one for two months. He again lowered the price to 12,988 and sold three in Jan. and Feb. He still has one left at that price now. I am on good terms with our local dealers. The new Tracer is not selling well in the US; much better in Europe. THere are tons of '22s and even some new '21 on the market. Yamaha announced earlier that they had no plans to introduce the T9GT+ in the NA markets. But at the price of that one I would never be interested. Yamaha pulls these kind of stunts. In 1982 they bankrupted 50% of their US dealers by forcing them to order the entire annual supply they wanted in the fall of 1981. Then the economy turned down and bike sales dried up. Dealers were still forced to take them or pay a 3% cancellation in cash right there. THis resulted in the elimination of 50% of their dealers in one year (!) after which Yamaha took their business to other brand dealers and really created the multi brand dealerships we see today.

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