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I'm not sure about the bracket on the sports screen but I have swaped between my puig touring  and the original a few times and it's only another minute and two bolts to swap the bracket over. 

On 8/3/2023 at 5:47 PM, gus898 said:

KNYTE mentioned doing a ECU flash- what does that do for the bike and how do I do that? Also, what do I have to do to transform the suspension?

The early bikes had a very abrupt throttle response going from fully off to partly on and this made the bike surge forward. It only caught me out a few times before I got more familiar with the bike. It was more noticeable in A mode and to be honest has only concerned me once when part way through a  U turn the bike surged forward towards the opposit kerb and I had to stand the bike up and stop. (might have been a bit of target fixation that caused that) The ECU can get re-mapped by an engine tuning guy to eliminate this issue. 

I'm still on the original suspension but the stock setup is a bit on the cheap side. I do feel it sometimes on particularly bad surfaces but I had tweeked the suspension pre-load and damping and found it's sweet spot for My weight and riding style. After 25,000 miles i'm thinking I should upgrade to an aftermarket setup and this is on the cards for later this year.

Enjoy the bike when it arrives and sometimes best to use it for a while before you decide what it really needs to make it yours.

3 hours ago, NormR said:

I was disappointed to see how much taller I was sitting on the T9 compared to my 2019.

I also felt that the seat height on the new T9 was higher when I sat on one in the showroom. It was higher than My 17reg 900 and both bikes on the low seat hight. I wondered at the time if it could be down to the suspension settings on the new bike or the fact that the stock suspension was brand new and not compressing under my weight. I rode a friends T9 for a short time recently and it didn't feel any higher than mine.

5 minutes ago, forcooler said:

the maintenance interval is 12 months or 10000km(6000miles)

That's what I do with mine, I've only been averaging 4,000 miles a year so do an annual service usually about November before it's stored for the winter. If I was lucky enough to get more riding time I would do an oil and filter change between 5,500 and 6,000 miles. Although I did the Valve clearance service last November at 20,000 miles just in case I had got more riding time in this year but it's best to do that service a wee bit early.

5 hours ago, Jasperthedog said:

 

5 hours ago, Jasperthedog said:

at what indicated temperature do you begin to worry about overheating? And how do you know what the temperature is anyway?

The car I have been driving for the past eight years takes about 5 mins of normal driving to indicate 90 degreesC after that it has NEVER varied mid winter from -5C to summer mid 30sC, an hour of slow moving stop start traffic, it has never changed from an indicated 90C. I believe this has been set like this by the manufacturer to stop drivers from panicking when the gauge moves a bit in it's safe normal range. As long as the cooling system is in good condition I don't think I would start to worry until the gauge was telling me it was heading up to about 110C but I would be more aware and looking for any other signs after 105C when I'm expecting the fans to kick in. It's still coolant under pressure at that temperature if it looks like it's turning to steam that's another matter.

I swapped tracers with my riding buddy a few weeks ago and tried his T9 out for part of the trip. Loved the quick shifter although it was a bit of guess work using it as I couldn't see the tiny wee indicator light on that split screen display without my reading glasses on, the T9 felt a bit smother on the road, (I still have the stock suspension on my 17 Tracer) would be nice at times to click on the cruise control. But, as much as I loved it I wouldn't be tempted to get down to the Dealership and give them my bike and £7 or £8,000 to trade up.

3 hours ago, betoney said:

I'm curious, to those that ride with a GPS and cell phone, what do you use a paper map for?  I have traveled with both paper maps and a GPS and have never used the paper map, not even once, so I stopped carrying them years ago.

For planning  a route that I'm going to input into the Tom-Tom sat nav I usually sit with a paper map or road atlas this usually has more detail on smaller roads and makes sure that the route that I input uses the roads I want to ride and not what the sat nav wants to pick for me. On multi day trips the road atlas is usually put in the bottom of the top case and might get used if we want to change that day's itinerary. The maps that the route planning programmes don't necessarily show enough detail unless you zoom right in. 

2 hours ago, Jayzonk said:

I was thinking about skipping the top box and just going with the panniers.

All depends on what you have with you and what accommodation you use. You may need to get all the stuff you intend to take with you and try it for size.

I had a quick look through the previous posts and couldn't see anything about hotels or camping. I usually run all the time with a top box it has everything I would usually need on a day trip (spare cloves spare top or jacket liner etc. and space for the helmet at stops) Camping adds the side cases and a roll top bag. The side cases have the fitted soft liners that can be quickly removed and taken in to the accommodation either tent or hotel.

I am planning  A tour later only using Hotels and am considering only using the top box and a roll top bag that can be taken into the hotel. This potentially would make filtering through traffic a bit easier on the motorway trips to and from the good bit of the tour. 

Don't  think you have anything to worry about, sounds normal. My Tracer typically runs in the low 70'sC only gets hotter in traffic. Fuel consumption regularly mid 50s with a very impressive 68 MPG once (Lightly loaded touring, half of the mileage on single track roads on Mull and half the mileage 60mph A roads) Didn't check the coolant temp with that but I don't think it would have been anything over my normal low to mid 70sC.

That last picture says it all. You've made the lady in you're life very happy so worth all the time and effort. a good job, well done 

I have seen lowering links advertised that drop the Tracer 35mm. If you go along that line with your bike just be aware that the early Tracer had the sump plug sticking down from the bottom of the sump and this could damage the sump going over bumps and curbstones. from 2017 the sump plug was re=designed and stuck out to the front.

First time out on the bike this year, as usual because it was first registered in March 2017 the first run out is to the local MOT station. (that's the Ministry of Transport approved testing garage for our foreign members) for its annual safety inspection. It was a very cool 4 degrees C and the roads a bit damp  from a drizzly light rain but it was so nice to have the bike out of its hibernation when I put it off the road in November. It felt so lively and smooth, now was that because I did the valve clearances and throttle bodies last November or because I've taken the beak off? Just a bit of road tax to buy now and I can get out to enjoy some more.

Even worse when there is a slight camber at the edge of the road, I couldn't lift the bike off the side stand when i was sitting on the bike and had to get off push the bike upright and push it a few yards to a flat bit of road.

2 hours ago, stephen falco said:

I am now very, very happy with my squat

Glad the extra 3 1/2 inches worked out for you, it's more than satisfying when your modifications give you the required outcome. Might think about slightly narrower bars for mine now,

On 1/11/2023 at 11:24 AM, Suu Kyi said:

use the existing auxiliary power outlet and a USB adaptor into the back of the Zumo (will that work?)

Yes but. Don't go for that option, it will work but when I tried it the connection would always work and vibrate loose. as most have suggested wire it into one of the spare connections behind the display. 

On 1/9/2023 at 4:30 PM, olddawg said:

Hit 80 yrs. and 312,000 miles today

Fantastic total and Happy 80th. Must get out more on mine at my present average Is only going to take me 85 years to match your mileage 

If the cooling fan cuts in and drops the temp down until the fan stops I wouldn't worry about it sounds normal to me.

I have the earlier Mk. one Tracer and my friend at that time had the Mk.2 Tracer 900 with the longer swing arm and riding both back to back along the same road I really wasn't aware of any noticable difference between the two bikes. With that in mind it is one change or "upgrade that I don't think I would consider. I was aware of the slightly narrower handle bars and is something I would possibly change. But in saying that, I wouldn't criticize anyone for adding stuff to their bike 

2 hours ago, duckie said:

A longer swingarm aint gonna do squat about squat

Thinking the same but what man wouldn't like an extra two inches.

1 hour ago, Warchild said:

which is demoralizing on a long road trip when you pull in the gas station on fumes.

You might get used to that feeling on long trips with the range of the MT-10. Seriously though it is a fantastic looking bike  and it will be very difficult to feel demoralized when you are out on it and experiencing that power delivery.

Welcome to the Forum Nigel, Good choice of replacement but then most of us on here think the Tracer is a good choice. Cruise Control is the only thing I probably hanker after on mine and I did consider the aftermarket McCruse system from Australia for a time but for the limited time I would use it I just opted for a throttle lock.

16 hours ago, betoney said:

IF that remains true, maybe they will test sales in Europe for 2023 and then release it as a 2024

I freely admit i could be spouting nonsense and talking through my arse end without any notion of finding out fact from fiction.... But, could Yamaha be testing the reliability of their adaptive cruise control on the Nations that don't have a compensation culture and the ability to generate huge compensation payouts if something goes horribly wrong before releasing the bike to the USA.

Just a few thoughts to generate some argument and I stand ready to revise my opinion when I am in possession of the facts.

2 hours ago, 2and3cylinders said:

Why was it registered off road

 The intake valves didn't need to be touched

 Do you have the stock Cam chain tensioner

 I presume you'll put the body work on after another test ride listening for things

 Do you ride through the Winter

I don't use the bike through winter too much salt spread on icy roads and no enjoyment. I usually SORN (statutory off road notification) for 4 months from the end of October and put it off the road and get the remaining road tax refunded.

The intake valves were all within tolerance but Andy the mechanic shimmed one of them to make it similar to the rest.

Started the engine at the workshop and it sounded really sweet. But next job now I have it back is to clean all the nooks and crannies and spray some ACF50 over the bike and get the bodywork back on

Tensioner is stock

Picked up my bike from the mechanic's workshop where the bike was getting it's 24,000 mile valve check service and new tires fitted. All the exhaust valves were tight and needed shimmed. Because the bike was registered as off road and I had stripped most of the bodywork off before sending it in, I decided just to push it the 1/3 of a mile home. Maybe not the best decision ever made, We talk about the Tracer being a light bike and at just over 200 kg (european) it certainly feels that way flicking round corners. Doesn't feel quite so light pushing up a slight incline. Half way home decided enough pushing and rode the rest of the way. 

Mileage at service was only 20,500 so i'm going to shout this next bit out

"DON'T LEAVE YOUR VALVE CHECK TOO LATE"

On 10/30/2022 at 3:09 PM, texscottyd said:

So, for me the magic number seems to be four:

I think that it's been scientifically proved that the ideal number of bikes in your garage is (N+1) where N is the number of bikes presently sitting in your garage.  Life is too short to dither and put things off and sometimes owning stuff can be as much about "I Want" rather than "I Need" 

So My 2 cents worth is if you want it and the financial implications don't have an impact on other important stuff in your life just do it and enjoy every mile.

P.S. This is from someone who had to re-write the scientific equation as (N equals 1) but it is a fantastic one.

9 hours ago, OldBikers said:

I have noticed that the bike balances to to the rear when on the center stand where all three cases are packed.  My top case is a SHAD SH45 which also has a sturdier mount.

Found that out at a petrol station when loaded for touring. The weight balance shifted when the tank was nearly full, the front of the bike dropped spilling petrol all over the outside of the tank.