RexDangerVest

It was not popular when I had my last bike. Now it seems to be everywhere...

Do you do it for proof in an accident? a YouTube channel?

As always, thanks in advance

RexDangerVest

6 hours ago, Dodgy Knees said:

No deterant...the central heated big house with free hot meals and a comfortable on-suite don't work.   Sorry for your loss.

They get cable TV here too.

2 hours ago, Wintersdark said:

I know how to set rider sag (though I don't yet know what it should be on our suspension, nor how one determines that), 

If you watch enough of his stuff he explains it all. In one of the ones I put a link for he even gives some ranges. If you get there (static set and rider within his guidelines you are close) and probably wont need springs. We both will. If you watch some more and learn about the zip tie on the front fork that will help a lot. Like others have said it will still be trial and error. Besides weight, some are sportier riders and will need/prefer a stiffer setup. Others will not. In some he even gives it as a percentage (not specific mm) so you can look in the manual and do the math...

As for a suspension shop... that sucks.

BUT

Even your dealer can install a new rear shock, or replace front springs and or cartridges. It will be the specialist on the phone/web that will help you choose what parts. Then all the dealer has to do is install them. Not ideal but doable.

The rest is trial and error. The best part is that once you start adjusting you will be COMPELLED to go for another and another ride till you find just the right adjustment. Near any of the rear shocks that people have listed here in other threads will work better than stock as long as you give them your weight. I would start there. i bet you like the improvement so much you will immediately want to work on the front..

On 11/2/2019 at 2:17 AM, Wintersdark said:

I'm really not a suspension guy, to be honest.  This is my first bike with a fully adjustable suspension, as all but my last bike (MT07) were old 80's machines with tired old shocks.  

Realistically, I'll probably need HD springs(I say this because I just expect it being 300lbs, not because of a problem), but I need to find someone who can help me out because I don't know what it should feel like.  I set up rider sag on the rear of my MT07, and need to on this (front and rear) but I don't know what the target is.

What I can say is that where it currently is - rear +2 clicks in from stock (this was not a showroom model), I don't bottom the suspension and it feels pretty decent.  Planted cornering, no bounce.  I was immediately comfortable leaning hard in corners and hanging off it.

But, again, I may just not know what I'm missing.  

There is no way the stock Suspension (new GT or ANY Other stock motorcycle) is ready for a 300lb rider... No matter how you adjust it. It may feel fine, but if you had the appropriate springs for your (Our) weight it would feel even better and certainly be safer. You just dont know because you have not experienced it.

Go to youtube and search out Dave Moss. He has several different channels I believe. A good place to start is Two Clicks Out. If you watch a bunch of them you will learn what to look for and how to get it. And he will tell you why it is unsafe without the proper setup. Here are some I have saved. Just keep watching and watching and then it will click. And NO, you do not need to join anything, just watch all the free stuff. Of course, if you can afford it. Pay up, I bet he is worth it.

And here is a post from Batgirl on this site that I just read. She had Dave work on her bike.

https://www.tracer900.net/topic/7802-trip-to-the-dragon-and-bike-mods/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FeZJRiAXRk&list=WL&index=93&t=0s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzz5wX7P-5c&list=WL&index=92&t=0s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qA3Ja7yxcQ&list=WL&index=94&t=0s

On 10/30/2019 at 5:24 AM, Wintersdark said:

I haven't topped out my 2019 Tracer GT yet (it's been snowy and -10C most of the time since I got it, so I've only been riding at sane speeds) but in my limited fair-weather time I've had it to 200kph shimmy free.... As long as I'm loose on the bars.  I find if I lean on the bars, buffeting wind pressure on my shoulders and arms from the windshield tends to introduce a bit of shimmy, but loosening up fixes that ... and is how I should be riding anyways. 

Dunno if this applies to anyone else - I'm a 6'4" 300lb guy, so not exactly an average rider - but that's my experience.  

This far, it's felt very stable and planted at high speeds; much moreso than my MT07 did.

Winter, Did you upgrade your springs/shocks at all?

Have you tested static and rider sag?

I am going to buy in the spring (currently 300lbs, but expect to be 250lbs by then) and I am already researching my upgrades...

I believe the setup on the bike is for someone lighter than us. Each time I have visited a dealer and sat on a bike there was near zero static sag. So they must have really cranked in the preload.

Rex

On 7/13/2019 at 6:45 PM, krillz said:

 

Sounds like it should. But doesn’t. I’ve never seen anyone turn on, say google maps and route home when there is no service. Doesn’t work where I ride. AT ALL

DL the Google Offline maps App (unsure if they have it for Apple) once you DL the areas YOU determine over WIFI all you need is the GPS signal.

I will never use anything else.

I do not look at it in the car... Why would I look at it while riding? I just let her voice tell me the way. While listening to my music. and one voice command (Hey Google, directions home) and I am on my way. I will be setting up a wireless charger on a holder (still researching) and I will always be charged and ready to go!