MrFritz86

To remove the mirrors you have to remove them from the bigger outer bolt

you remove the whole assembly

Putting together the Tracer 900 I recently bought

tired of waiting the quadlock vibration dampener and tired of holding me back using the phone case with the mount

made my own version of dampener, not as fancy as the one they’re developing, but I hope it will be functional at the very least

used some zip ties as safety, just in case the isolators would come apart

not tested yet, but it’s worth a try

Quadlock vibration dampener

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Then installed Denali DM aux lights with the forks mounting brackets

Denali DM lights

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33 minutes ago, TTR Ignition said:

I still remember the nifty sound my RZ350 made as it spat the left-outboard YPVS segment out the side; the PO had installed them *upside-down*, and riding it around was pounding the halves apart.

Fortunately,  the left side has the drive cable, so it was sitting there dangling as I pulled off to the side of the road ...

That's an interesting story 😰

Hey, nice to see you on both this and the CB650 forum.

1 hour ago, Wintersdark said:

I hear that!   My last two bike purchases have been brand new bikes, and it's been so nice not having to play the "What bullshit did the previous owner do?" game.  The PO horror stories I've got after 25 years of old, used bikes...  

I recognize I've paid a lot more for my last two bikes than I strictly "needed" to - buying lightly used would have saved me thousands - but... Yeah.  It's nice to just not worry about what surprises are hidden within.

The last used bike I bought - a Yamaha XJ750 - seemed ok.  Lots of wear, but it was an 82 and that was expected and part and parcel to the whole "buying an 80's bike" schtick.  Until I look off the valve cover to check the valves. 

Valve cover bolts where glued in place, not screwed into anything.  This was because the aluminum cam caps (to which the inside bolts thread in) where literally broken.  They'd had someone try to weld on bulk metal, drill new holes, and put helicoils into them... But that really didn't work out.  This was one of the caps:

I mean, really.  

I really I hope I don’t have to deal with anything else

Today I put 150 miles after I fixed that issue, checked it was still tight, and luckily was fine

Anyway, that mess is really bad, why would you do something like that 😳

Mine turned out great Ahahahahah, next time let me know 🤣

First issue found 😒
Yesterday I was walking around the bike to check for anything that I could have missed the first day
Noticed the lower engine bolt, that holds the center stand, below the brake peg, that was not screwed all the way in
The bolt was removed when he installed the engine crash bar
Tried to torqued it down and without even applying much force, it slipped and realized it was f****d
Removed it and found some epoxy or JB
Checked everything and thread was gone
Luckily there was plenty of wall thickness and bought a Helicoil kit, drilled, tapped it, and used the coil with some red loctite, was able to torque it down as required.

got in touch with the guy and he played dumb saying that he wasn’t aware how big the issue was
And he admitted to have it stripped 
Had to pay almost $100 for everything, he said he’s gonna send me those money back tomorrow 

I really hope that everything else is ok, already check all the other engine bolts and torqued them down to the required values, they were good

This is why I don’t like used stuff
In somehow people will screw you, no matter how nice you’re with them 🤬

Hello

I’m in Nashville as well, new owner 

let me know if you guys are still in the area

3 hours ago, betoney said:

Sounds like you founds a great lightly used model. The only thing I would suggest right away is a radiator guard.  Ride it for a few weeks and make a mental list of pro's and con's before spending money changing parts out.

Actually the radiator guard is already there, completely forgot to mention it, so huge ++++

at the moment I don’t need anything else, suspension and shock felt pretty good, I’m fairly light weight 

I think it’s a very good deal

Hello everyone 

I recently started a thread looking for a Tracer and many of you helped me a lot, so thank you

I decided to go with a barely used ‘19 Tracer, you can find the details in the thread above

Super happy and can't wait to share my experiences

Tracer 900

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Anybody in Nashville area?

On 8/16/2020 at 11:03 PM, MrFritz86 said:

a used 2 month old ‘19 Tracer 900, 1800miles, with some mods (crash bars, integrated tail light, Tail tidy, led turn signals with daylight running lights) delivered at my door for $9000

quoting my own message, tomorrow I'll get the used tracer delivered at my door

I think it's a great deal with the added mods, forgot to add 2 Puig windscreen, 1 sport and 1 touring

Only in mods I'm already saving at least $600, not that I was gonna do all of them, but most.

I'm set on this one bc, the only new stock that I found was in NC, and atm flying is not an option, then I had to ride back in Nashville, TN. and it was gonna cost me around $9600.

I've everything that I need to start, Lee Parks throttle lock, Koso heated grips, Denali aux lights, sw Motech tank bag and rear bag.

Give you guys an update over the weekend.

Thank you all for your help.

So tomorrow will be the day where I’ll be making a decision 

got different options to choose

a used 2 month old ‘19 Tracer 900, 1800miles, with some mods (crash bars, integrated tail light, Tail tidy, led turn signals with daylight running lights) delivered at my door for $9000

there are some GTs in the nation, around $11.500 (all fees and reg included), but that would mean for me to fly in and ride back (10hrs at least), so add another couple of hundred bucks
 

then there is a ‘17 with 10.000 miles at $7.900, Corbin seat, H&B panniers, and upgraded springs and rear shock HyperPro, but the spring rate is set for 240lbs and I’m only 185 with full gear

I'm not very good at suspensions set up, how bad would that be to ride on it?

11 minutes ago, betoney said:

Yes, depending on your wants and needs, the basic Tracer is a great value for the money.  And except for the TFT screen and factory cruise control, you can upgrade everything to the 'GT spec'.  MCCruise offers a cruise control that you can install yourself.

You could upgrade to factory or aftermarket heated grips and quick shifter as well

The one area that could get a bit more expensive is the suspension.  The basic tracer has damping in one leg while the GT has compression and rebound damping in separate legs and the GT has a remote preload adjustment knob.  Though if you either plan on upgrading your suspension or not even bothering then what comes stock from the factory wont make a difference. 

Side bag options are factory city bags, or larger bags from the FJR - same mount hardware, or aftermarket like Shad or Givi for half the price.

 

Good to know there is a aftermarket electronic cruise control, thanks.

I might need just to buy the side bags, I pretty much already have everything that I need to start.

I'm gonna call the dealer to check if it's still available, $7,500 is really a good deal.

57 minutes ago, texscottyd said:

"Worth it" is so HIGHLY subjective that only you can really answer for yourself.   That said, the standard Tracer is a ton of motorcycle of the kind of deal you're seeing on new, non-current 2019 models.   You seem like the type that's very cautious about a used bike (totally understandable), and buying new takes all of that concern out of the equation.

You can't really make a standard Tracer into a GT, but if you only selectively need some of the features, it would be a great way to go.   Factory bags are about $1,000 retail, but they show up here periodically used (or there are a bunch of aftermarker options).   You can add cruise, heated grips, and the quickshifter if your really want them...  just a personal cost/benefit call on each of those.   The TFT gauges are admittedly really nice, and there's no way of getting that on a standard model. 

But to answer your question:  Yes, $7.5K for a brand new, factory warrantied 2019 Tracer is a hell of a deal.   I would seriously consider going that route.

Good luck!
-Scott

for sure is subjective, but considering that the GT is "just" an upgrade of the standard, definitely is a ton of a motorcycle to start with.

I do like the platform, and this why I'm considering even the standard, going with a discounted new model, and make it my own with the money that I saved.

I'm willing to put some aftermarkets options and maybe spend some money on better suspensions and shock if I feel the need. Luckily I already have Koso heated grips, Denali DM aux lights, SW Motech Micro Tank bag and Rear Tail bag, also have the Lee Parks Design cruise control (not as good as Atlas, but good enough to start).

The TFT is a nice upgrade, but I'm ok with the old style gauges.

Thanks btw

Keep you guys posted

31 minutes ago, northsouth said:

That's quite a whack to get the front that far out. Are they scrapes on the side case or just dent type scratches from a true stationary tip over? If they are scrapes it wasn't stationary. 

Didn’t really see any particular scrapes, but he could have had them fixed....who knows

and yes, the front is really too far out, better safe than sorry at this point

Now I have another question

Is the Tracer 900 worth it?

is it upgradable just like the GT? (quick shifter, springs)

I do not really mind about the different display, and I could eventually add aftermarket heated grips, atlas throttle lock, aftermarket panniers, top case and tank bag.

there is a 2019 listed for $7.499 at a dealer in Alabama, and is 2.5 hours away from my house.

Just now, rlambke19 said:

I'd pass. If he kept this from you - what else has he not been forthcoming about. Did he haggle with you when you offered him $10K or did he jump at it?

That front end looks off to me for sure. Even if the damage isn't structural, it would drive me nuts looking at it.

Rob 

 

 

that's what drove me bonkers, why keeping it from me if it really was just a drop when stationary??

I offered him 9.5, ha said 10.5, and then I told 10 bc I wanted to stay below 11k with taxes and fees, he said yes. not really a big fight

but why not offer something back when I noticed all of those things........

Yeah it was driving me nuts, I wasn't sure if the road was bent or my brain was totally f***ed ahahahahahah

12 minutes ago, Stew said:

I'd say that sums it up. You could get it checked properly, and it might be just a bent bracket or bars or something.
BUT
It's going to be at the back of your mind.
I'd either offer stupidly low money for it, or find another (but that's just me)

The odd thing is that he did not even bother to lower the price or to offer a complete check up at the dealer.

Either, really is not a big damage, or he realized that he f***ed up trying to play with me.

I really hoped for it, but the way he did it, not saying it up front, made me look at my wallet and say, do not take the risks of buying something that you are not sure of.

He has just admitted to have it dropped to the side when stationary

but I don’t trust him anymore at this point

we could take it to the dealer for a complete check-up, he has to pay for it of course

1 hour ago, johnmark101 said:

That does seem a bit odd.  Just out of curiosity I looked at mine and do not see this condition.  Maybe a thorough inspection of the front end of the bike for any signs it has been down would be wise.  It may be nothing to worry about though.   

That’s what I was afraid of, but I didn’t feel anything odd when riding it, considering that I never ridden this bike before, so maybe I just didn’t spot it 

I think that the bike has been dropped though 

the crankcase cover is a bit scratched and the rear brake pedal is bent

3 hours ago, betoney said:

@MrFritz86 - Besides the sticker, I don't see anything wrong with the dash.  The bike appears to be in great condition except for the bent brake pedal.

look at this image where I made some guides to show the front being offset

It's not only the dash, the whole front

It's the first thing that caught my eyes when I jumped on the bike

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Did the test ride and I liked ti so far.

I took it on a bumpy highway and the suspensions were very good imo.

I can already tell with the standard setting the rear shock is soft btw.

The air buffeting was in check with the Puig windscreen, at least was clean air without head shaking!!

Vibrations are there but not buzzy at all, so definitely impressed. Cruising vibrations free.

The engine was ready all the time, the throttle response was buttery smooth, not snatchy as a lot of people stated (I even asked if they did remap the ECU), it was in STD mode tho.

One thing that bumps me, is the dash being a little off to the right, what do you guys think?

here some pics, see the dash offset

tracer

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2 hours ago, piotrek said:

Do yourself a favour for the test ride and spend the 10 minutes that it takes to get the suspension into the ballpark for your weight. I am sure the seller won't mind if it helps him sell the thing.

I’ll definitely spend some time to set the suspension 

I’ve already checked the standard setup, I’m assuming it’s based on average weight like mine, I’m going first with that to have a good start point

then make some adjustments if I feel the need.

thank you for the advise btw

The guy accepted 10k, super deal!!!

Tomorrow I’ll go test ride it

3 hours ago, bps said:

I've had my GT since April, and I also came of a Vstrom 650.  At first I thought I'd made a mistake due to vibes.  However, now it feels downright smooth to me.  Hard acceleration you do get vibes, but that's to be expected.  I figure it's a combination of the engine breaking in and me getting used to the bike.  I've never had a bike that I haven't changed the screen and seat.  I've got a MRA Touring screen with the spoiler and it works fine for me.  The biggest problem I have with the stock seat is that it slides you forward.  I'll be getting a Terry Adcox seat next month.  I still think my Vstrom 650 was a little bit more comfortable but the GT is WAY MORE fun.  If you've never had cruise control you'll love that.

 

Thanks for sharing

At this point, my first mods would be the seat and windscreen if I feel the need.

Took a quick look at this Terry guy, and he's making very good seats at very good prices.

I hope to test ride the bike on Thursday, can't wait!!!

Cheers!!!!

2 hours ago, piotrek said:

This is a great bike for 9h sport touring days. In practical terms, and assuming you're keeping off freeways, this works out to 600-700km days, accounting for food, fuel and stretch stops... and occasional stop to see stuff, in my experience anyway. This is probably a good daily (repeatable) pace on this bike. This isn't a grand tourer... so  I would consider claims of comfortable, and repeatable 1,000km+ days with pause.

At 160lbs... the suspension might be just right for you... so you'll get very lucky there. Windscreen and seat are all subjective, and you might get lucky there too.

It's also a great bike around town. I use it to commute, weekend outings and touring.

Thank you with the detailed answers

I hope that I'll love it when test riding it.

The guy in my area just replied to me saying that he's willing to negotiate and let me test ride it.

Lets see where everything goes.

1 hour ago, keithu said:

I think it's an excellent solo tourer, I've done multiple 1000+ mile days on my '15 FJ-09. The Tracer has about the same riding position as a BMW R1250RT. The only thing the Tracer GT really needs to be a good touring bike is a better seat and windscreen. Both are easily remedied. 

Vibration: It's not obnoxious but you can tell there's an engine down there. It's not the smoothest bike I've ever owned, but it's far from the buzziest. Try to get a test ride. If the throttle bodies are out of sync that will cause it to buzz a bit, but in a good state of tune it runs smoothly. 

Regarding the Triumph 800s - I rented one a couple of years ago, and compared to my FJ-09 the engine was extremely disappointing. Dare I say boring? Yes, I dare it. I think if you're looking at a newer Tiger 900 vs the Tracer GT, that's a tough call. But Tracer GT vs Tiger 800XC? Not even close. 

In summary: If you get the Tracer all your wildest dreams will come true. 

Thanks a lot for the comparison (that I was really looking for) in between the 2.

I totally agree with you, specs wise already tell the differences, 93hp vs 115hp. It might not be that much, but it will be more obvious when riding, especially when adding weight to the bike.

What I'm looking for is a bike far from buzzy, and it's a great starting point. I will eventually tune it if needed. (also heard about the snatchy throttle, being a bit better on 2019 and up model, but still a bit annoying)

I like your summaries 🤣