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  1. Good job! LOL love the bottom left photo - make that case look like a 200L instead of a 58L. I've thought about a small one for a helmet, like the Yamaha rack better and your mount.
  2. Thanks for posting up. Interesting, not sure if I like the styling, LED headlights look nice and follow the R1 and R6 look. IMO kind of looks like a naked with a big windscreen and fairings on the sides to smooth airflow. Since I just purchased a 2020 I'm curious to see what I might have missed by not waiting but don't think it would have changed my decision. I would like to see cornering ABS and better throttle response but those are not deal breakers for me. EDIT: Forgot to say good to see they didn't go for the adventure styling.
  3. I would add allen wrenches to fit the various fasteners on the bike - haven't looked closely but 2 or 3 should cover most and a small pair of pliers. I've had bolts fall out on a long trip and was able to swap a less critical one into its place. A small voltmeter is also handy to troubleshoot stuff like why isn't this charging. a few zip ties of various sizes, 2 or 3 bungie cords, a packing strap, Grorilla tape, 3M double sided foam tape, and now face masks, hand sanitizer, pain meds, bandaids, antibiotic ointment, spare batteries for SPOT and visor cleaner. Tools go under the seat and the other stuff in the tank bag. Pretty much if it is something I may need quickly or frequently then its in the tank bag. Otherwise under the seat or a side case. In addition also carry a small Battery Tender brand usb adapter that plugs into the Battery Tender cord connected to the battery. A cell phone charger battery is also nice to keep cell charged. Over 5 two week trips in the last couple of years have used almost everything at some time. As for tools I carry, enough to change both wheels - have a long handled 3/8" ratchet which hopefully get the rear wheel loose and then tight enough to get me where I can have it torqued. A small assortment of sockets, allen wrenches wrenches. A small air compressor, tire patch kit and CO2 inflation kit. Not a lot of stuff but enough for minor repairs. I cary a SPOT and a Garmin inReach mini for communication when out of cell phone coverage and have a couple of towing plans as well. Ive talked about it other threads but in late August left on a 6,000 mile 17 day trip on my BMW F800GT. Had my usual assortment of tools tailored for that bike. Minor stuff plus enough to change both wheels. At the end of the second day had a catastrophic failure of a rear wheel bearing. Yes it failed just after everything closed so I had all night to ponder. Got up next morning and canceled the rest of my trip :-( ordered a swingarm from eBay and swapped the swingarm in the campground. Owner was super nice and let me use his shop area. I did spend $100 on tools at the local Harbor Freight which I gave most of to the campground owner. Nice to have a few tools but can't have everything. 1/3 of what I spent was for a torque wrench and an inverse Torx socket set in case i had to adjust the belt tension. My plan is to have enough tools for simple repairs and if major repairs are needed will either have it done or buy the necessary tools. I travel in remote areas and carry a bit more than if I was in a more densely populated area.
  4. Here is a thread where there is some discussion of aux light mounting. I have procured most of the materials using inch measurements instead of metric. Looks like a good way to mount lights. Its very similar to the Givi. My lights are small ones from Amazon - I use aux lights for daytime visibility as I tend to avoid riding at night - but good aux lights are important for those times I have to ride after dark.
  5. At 2,400 miles took the OEM tires off and put a Michelin Pilot Power 5 on the front and a Road 5 on the rear. The Road 5 has 3,800 miles from a previous bike and was a bit squared off, Power 5 is new and a rain tire. Its "stickier" than the Road 5. My only issue with the Road 5 is the front cupped enough at 12,000 miles on my previous bike that I replaced it. Lots of straight riding and I do brake fairly aggressively. Expect the Power 5 to not cup like the Road 5 as the tread blocks are different. I probably should have upped the pressure a bit but ran it at 36 psi. The Tracer GT is lighter in the front wold not expect it to wear just like previous bike. I'm super happy with the combination but working on getting it further leaned over - need clear roads I'm comfortable with and haven't hit that combination recently. I keep thinking about running some other tire but the Michelins have always done well for me and I am hesitant to give up something I know is good for something I don't know. Ive been running thru 2 rears and one front a year so if I dint like the tires wouldn't be long before they were off. Buuuuut ....
  6. As you say "a ball to ride" isn't that what we are all chasing :-) and is why I think the 660 will do very well. A fast bike that is fun and easy to ride without killer ergos! There are some "spec sheet competitors" who say my bike is faster, has more displacement, has more HP, etc. But look at how many Tracer 700s and Tracer 900s Yamaha has sold. Fun bikes that art as powerful as a R6 but are also ridable in a practical sense. Cant quote the numbers but if I'm not mistaken the 2003 ZX6R still had reasonable ergonomics which made it more streetable than later bikes. Spent today working corners at a motorcycle track day. Amazing how a well ridden small bike is just as fast as a more powerful bike.
  7. I know a fella who used to write workshop manuals for bikes back in the day. Not the manufactures manuals but 3rd party manuals. He said they would borrow a bike from a dealership or the factory, take it apart and then put it back together to do the manual. Along the way taking photos and notes. After the bike was back together they would return it. I'm sure it was sold to some unsuspecting but IMO lucky person. The bike had been completely disassembled but correctly assembled and was probably better than almost any other bike at the dealership. This was back in the day - this person is very knowledgeable about motorcycles but it still amuses me that they borrowed a bike to take apart and put back together and then return. Kind of like renting a Camry from Budget and taking it apart and putting it back together and then returning it. Hummmm I've seen more than one rental car participating in a track day!
  8. Thats good to know, I do a lot of log trips to the western states and am many times well over 3,400' elevation. I've not noticed a difference but do put E0 in whenever I can. I have a Honda Metropolitican that sometimes goes months without being started - I have two scooters and it is the least favorite due to the frightful acceleration from the mighty 49cc engine. It takes a bit longer to start but after the first start it starts and runs very nicely. The closest gas station is a Shell and have always used their gas. Put regular in the scooters and premium in the Tracer GT.
  9. Never ridden with a 1290 but from what I see at the track there is not as much difference between a 600 and a liter bike below 100mph. Liter bikes have good pull with lots of torque but its on the longer straights that the power really is noticeable. In WERA more than one have seen a 600 rider "ride up" and race in the liter bike race and run mid pack or better. Lots of fun to watch them go at it. Watched Danny Eslick running with a good rider on a liter bike. Danny couldn't get around the liter bike but the liter bike couldn't pull away either. Lots of fun to watch. Don't think either of them are racing anymore. My butt dyno says the Tracer GT is as quick as my ZX6R 636 was although the ZX6R would probably outrun the Tracer GT at any speed over 115 :-)
  10. LOL not saying I'm in love with the seat, in fact just saw a post on a Bagster seat and thinking about it. Had looked at them earlier but didn't see any for sale in the US, now this fella posted a link to one in the US! I've always wanted a comfy seat but have never had one - closest was my BMW comfort seat with an AirHawk on top - I could ride that all day without much discomfort. On the Tracer I could make it thru a tank of gas before needing to stop - 140 to 175 miles. Thats why I say its not bad. When I bought the bike I rode 110 miles back to where I was staying nonstop and without any difficulty. Had a Sargant on my CBR600RR and it was not a lot better than stock but I still rode it 300 to 350 miles a day and a couple of times did 600 miles in a day. Corbin seems to have some mixed reviews but the Bagster seems to have almost all great reviews.
  11. I've had no issues with shifting into 4th or 5th that weren't my fault. Wondering if your clutch is adjusted properly. I would certainly get the dealer to take a look at it. Biggest problems Ive had have been finding neutral between1st and 2nd a couple of times - both times I was doing a lazy shift, uncertain as to wether I was going to use the clutch or QS and so totally screwed up the shift - but my fault. When riding around the neighborhood or in residential areas I almost always shift early and slowly and use the clutch. IMO QS is good when hustling. An absolute blast when going up thru the gears. I got into the habit with my last bike of shifting early and not using much throttle when in populated areas with lower speed limits. Started doing that to stretch gas mileage.
  12. Thats a nice seat! Is the material woven? How does it stand up to rain? I do a lot of long trips, bike is always outside during the trips and every trip have had some rain or a lot of rain.
  13. I'll have to say its not a bad seat. However seats fit different people differently and what is ok to one is bad to another. IMO a CBR600RR or a BMW F800GT with a stock seat are both way worse than the Tracer GT. I picked my Tracer GT up and immediately put 2,400 miles on it in 7 days. That includes a 500 mile day all with the stock seat. After reading so many comments about the seat was surprised that it wasn't bad - I had my AirHawk on it. Would I would like a more comfortable seat yes but its not as high on my list as other things. Will have to try some of the seat leveling mods. Tracer GT is built to a price point and some things could be nicer but for the price its an incredible bike.
  14. 660 looks really nice. Exactly what Ive been wanting for a long time. I was 63 when I traded by ZX6R 636 on a sport touring bike so I could do long trips. Still miss that bike but the Tracer GT has brought excitement back! My back is not in the best shape and I have a knee which is not 100% - lost the bottom quarter in a scooter crash 4 1/2 years ago but even after that still rode the ZX6R 600 miles in one day - painful part was the seat, knee was fine :-) My back actually does better when I ride a lot, guess it is improving core strength. Aprillia is exactly where I wanted to go with my ZX6R! My vision of a sport touring bike was my ZX6R with more relaxed ergonomics and a taller windscreen and a good seat. I don't tour 2 up so I'm happy with two sidecases and a duffle bag on the rear seat.
  15. Nice review. I had a BMW F800GT which was a good bike with a dull dull dull engine. The replacement is the F900XR which is based on the F900R. Supposed to be a bit of an adventure bike - like the Tracer GT and both are IMO adventure styled. I looked at the F900XR but did not ride one, would if I had the opportunity. After my experience with the F800GT it will be a long time before I'm ready to seriously consider a BMW. The BMW seems to be a more polished bike than the Tracer GT but it doesn't have the CP3. Bought my 2020 Tracer GT for $11,495 and a BMW F900XR with cruse, sidecases and a center stand are several thousand more. BMW comes with a 3 year warranty but they can be difficult to deal with.