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16 hours ago, 2and3cylinders said:

 I've done the same thing a few times a dead blow hammer and and leather sandbags sandbags work well

http://www.thewheelwarehouse.com/services/motorcycle-wheel-and-rim-repair/

Hmm these guys are 2-hours away from me and they look pretty legit, thanks for the recommendation.

I may also give the dead blow hammer a shot since a few of you have done it successfully.

26 minutes ago, Heli ATP said:

What did you hit? I can't advise on repair but if you have to go new, buy online. No need to pay dealer markup.

 

https://www.partzilla.com/catalog/yamaha/motorcycle/2021/tracer-9-gt-mtt9gtms-bap51/front-wheel

Thanks!

Not exactly sure but it looked like a section of midpipe. Car in front of me didn't even swerve to avoid it so maybe I was riding too close but I didn't have much of a heads-up to avoid.

Also ships in 57-62 days oof.

I can't seem to catch a break, but can catch plenty of road debris 😄

Can something like this be repaired by a shop or would I be better off just buying a new one from dealer?

Anyone have experience with something like this? If cost is close for repair vs. new may as well just buy new.

Cheers,

1 hour ago, Cuda said:

What I don't understand it the $5,000 difference between the MT9 and the Tracer ?

Just bags and windshield right? can bags and shield be attached to the MT9?

 

 

In the states the base level Tracer 9 isn't offered so you're comparing an MT-09 base spec to the Tracer 9 GT. The base Tracer 9 is only a few hundred more than the MT-09.

The T9GT also has electronic suspension, touring seat, heated grips, cruise control, cornering LEDs, hand guards, larger fuel tank (1.2 Gal larger), and a stronger sub frame with higher payload capacity.

The MT-09 SP is a better comparison to the Tracer 9 GT.

7 hours ago, betoney said:

I think along the same lines, I'm not getting any younger and realize that my motorcycling days wont last forever.  I work to have money to enjoy life, once the bills are paid the rest is budgeted for riding- gas, food and lodging. 

Living in the PNW, our riding season is shorter than others so when the forecast says I've got a green light, I'm gone.

I definitely get this line of thinking and I'm still on the motorcycle as much as I can be, still logging roughly 150mi a week in joy riding or moto camping on top of any distance travel I need to see friends and family.

It's just now become a hard sell for those short journeys I know I can just ride straight up to the business/destination and save some $ in addition to not having to park in a parking lot and then walk to the business.

I would also think it's heavily dependent on where one lives if cycling or smaller motorcycles are viable.

With gas costing as much at it does currently I'm probably not the only person who went back to just cycling everywhere if the journey is less that 5mi one-way, milk-crate and all 😄. I'm lucky enough to work from home only need the car to go to the airport when travel is needed; work pays for the vehicle wear and gas.

I'm looking to snag a Vespa 150 with their old 2-stroke engine, and might do an ebike conversion on my current Trek FX 7.3.

Anyone else just make similar changes? In my town I've started seeing a lot of the electric scooters and ebikes, there are days where I definitely see more bicycles than cars, especially on the weekends.

Use PartZilla to find the part numbers and then search it for dimensions (Tracer 9 GT linked below):

https://www.partzilla.com/catalog/yamaha/motorcycle/2021/tracer-9-gt-mtt9gtmcr-bap6

Are you referring to the spring nuts?

https://www.partzilla.com/product/yamaha/90183-05042-00?ref=30cf7827add8e64bedd602e6d79bad7d63d431d3

PartZilla is always my starting point for stuff like this.

On 12/30/2021 at 5:01 AM, petshark said:

I get that the old headlamp style is "old" tech and they are phasing it out so I actually prefer the angry robot look of the MT10 to the undecided-in-between look of the T9 with the double headlights. 

Love it or hate it... It is a no-compromise design choice.

Every damn time I see that bike:

58 minutes ago, Grumpy Goat said:

Nice ... so how does this splash guard work? Does it solve the problem?

Will post results when we get some rainfall 👍

Givi Rm2159kit to mount the Givi Rm02 splash guard $160.43 shipped from Motostorm.it

As mentioned previously I've found the T9GT to sling everything on the road all over the rear end of the bike, it's frustrating how much crap covers the bike after a wet ride.

Easy install: assemble the guard to the bracket before mounting, sprayed some ACF-50 on the bracket since it is painted metal. Remove stock axle nut, washer, and axle block. Install assembled guard with included alignment plate, replace stock washer and nut, torque to spec.

Givi's mount is a bit longer than the stock axle block from the chain tension adjuster to the axle hole, so you'll have to loosen the left side stock axle block to align the rear wheel.

Thought about buying the Pyramid Plastics guard, but that's $251.49 shipped. Motostorm.it support has always been great to me too.

PSA to the new T9GT owners cornering ABS is off by default. Bike is set to BC1 (standard ABS) from dealer, need to turn on BC2 to test.

I haven't tracked the bike, but in my testing on twisty roads in Appalachia, BC2 (cornering ABS) works well! You know how when you're hard in a corner and brake the bike tries to stand itself up? Cornering ABS solves that, it manages power and slide for you so you stay leaned.

The confidence boost is worth it alone, and it is not obtrusive at all. I like it, and for me it's valuable for those narrow roads with curves and the oncoming traffic doesn't even try to stay in their lane so you have to brake mid corner to avoid getting hit .

I wear an XL RPHA 70 ST and it fits no problem.

Looks good.

Don't toss the stock tail fender, this bike kicks up so much crap you may decide the tail tidy isn't worth it and want to put it back on. It absolutely coats my topcase in crap.
 

1 hour ago, 2and3cylinders said:

I've seen them first hand on Old Man's Liquid Metal 21 T9 GT but for some reason on your Redline's T9 the panniers look huge from the rear.  I have Shad SH36 panniers for my fastest red 15, and while their 3P mounting system spreads them out relatively wide, they still seem smaller and much sleeker looking?

Those are the OEM panniers?  What size are they?

30L is OEM, it's gotta be the angle the pictures are taken. They are pretty streamlined in person.

5 hours ago, piotrek said:

Compare the 2017 MT09 spec with model year that didn't have the OE splash guard on it. Should give you an idea anyway.

In the instructions you referenced, the locking wings on the nut don't seem to have a lot of thread engagement. Does that reflect whet you're seeing on your bike?

I don't see how adding this accessory would alter your OE specified chain slack. Follow the manual for that IMO.

Wow, good call on suggesting looking up the '17 MT09 with the OE splash guard, 150Nm:

That being said, it looks like all the torque values for MT09s are 146Nm to 150Nm depending on model year. I just checked my '15 FJ09 manual and it also recommends 150Nm; though I only ever torqued it to 130-ish Nm. Oddly enough the MT10 which puts out more horsepower calls for 137Nm. Being a new swingarm and all that on the T9GT, I'll torque to manual spec and keep an eye on it.

As for the chain slack instructions, it looks like the instructions for all of their splash guards for CP3 motorcycles says 15-20mm. So they probably just didn't update as the swingarms of Tracers got longer; I'll stick with manual recommendation.

Thanks!

Hey guys,

When aftermarket parts dictate torque specs on reused OEM nuts & bolts that differ from the manual specs, which do you generally go with?

In my case the instructions are stating to retighten the rear axle nut to 146Nm... against the manual's 105Nm.

I know from experience when reusing bolts & nuts to a go a bit lighter than the manual, especially rear sprocket nuts seems to strip easily if you reuse them and try to tighten to factory spec. But for this, a 40Nm torque increase for a splashguard seems high, I'd be scared of the rear wheel seizing.

On another note, their chain slack spec of 15-20mm in the instructions also seems dangeoursly tight; manual calls for 45-50mm.

Thanks for any input.

The timing of this thread is amazing, I was just cleaning off the bottom of my Shad topcase thinking "The T9GT fender seems to be less effective than the FJ09".

Seriously, I never had gunk on my topcase with the FJ09 but it seems like the T9GT can't keep its rear clean, even crap gets ontop of the license plate holder. Weird.

Ordered a rear hugger.

21 hours ago, CRFan250 said:

Don't think anyone has a flash for it yet either so there is that.......

Vcyclenut has had one out for a while.

But yes, I agree that there isn't a need for one the bike is super smooth as-is. Though it does look like there are some gains to be had with a flash + full exhaust change:



Dropping $1500+ on a system then another $250 on the tune for is a lot for a bike that doesn't have any noticeable deadspot on stock map. All of the tested exausts are high-mount too I believe, losing the stock "hidden" exhaust look.

Though the Arrow decatted version is $1,000 and looks pretty.... hmm.

7 hours ago, stringman said:

thanks for the reply but tracer 9 or tracer9gt are out of my budget.

D'OH!!!

I thought:

12 hours ago, stringman said:

I am looking at buying a 2018/9 model which I understand has the longer swinging arm and narrower bars.

Meant you were were looking at buying either the 2018 generation Tracer (MY 2018-2020) or the new Tracer "9" models. My brain 😵; embarrassing.

Sorry you had to read my novella of a reply. You definitely get what you pay for with these bikes, though. Krusty's reply is spot-on: only you can figure out what can live with or without. I personally think the GT upgrades are worth it, adding cruise control later is more time and money than just having it to begin with.

A lot of people on this forum seem to tunnel vision on the new electronic suspension of the T9GT and make that the only defining difference factor when buying a T9GT vs Tracer 900 GT used/new old stock.

They sleep on the peak torque of the new engine coming online 1500RPM earlier in the rev range which is huge; after 3000mi riding the bike, this is the most noticeable difference. The seat on the GT is great, I'm not the only one of the forum who has mentioned that; the passenger seat is also upgraded if that matters to you. That'll save you a Corbin or Mustang purchase in the future.

You're in a market (UK) where you can pick up the base Tracer 9 and save some money if you don't want the semi-active suspension. I believe that model still comes with cruise control; and that would've been the route I took if that were available in the US since I already had my own panniers and aftermarket heated grips tend to be better than OEM in many cases.

As to how good the semi-active suspension is, yeah it's good. Damping being adjusted by a computer a thousand times a second is sweet when you're on crap roads. I think a testament to how good it is, is the lack of comments on it from people who own it on this forum. We'd all be up in arms if it sucked, but it doesn't. It's like 90% of my ohlins setup from my 2015 FJ09 on the aggressive twisties, but infinitely better at everything else especially on subpar roads.

There are some others:

Pyramid UK

R-Gaza crash-bar skid plate combo

On 1/25/2022 at 1:51 PM, Hogie said:

Not sure if it is important to you but the new 2021 Tracer is Euro 5 compliant where the 2020 isn’t. To achieve this Yamaha increased the capacity from 847cc to 889cc and the horsepower increases marginally, though in the real world you wouldn’t notice. There is a risk that European governments will implement Euro 5 only areas in cities which would be a PITA as Yamaha and bike dealers have always said that the 2019-20 models could easily meet Euro 5 standards but were never certified as it wasn’t an industry requirement.

 

Increased peak HP in the new engine isn't noticable in daily riding but peak torque being more and coming online 1500RPM earlier in the rev range is VERY noticeable around town esp with a passenger and/or luggage.

Also, the new Tracer 9s have a revised subframe with higher rated payload capacity which is worth considering between the two generations when making a purchase.

On 10/21/2021 at 6:29 PM, betoney said:

I agree, I don't want to be stuck with only 2 settings, I am very picky when it comes to suspension and have spent a LOT of time and miles tweaking and fine tuning.  

When you rode the new Tracer 9 did you feel that it needed different damping settings or just correct springs for your weight?

Preload is fully adjustable with tools, it's rebound that is electronic and only two settings. I do agree having a 3rd setting would be nice and a 4th would be ideal. Currently having only stiff or soft isn't great, and stiff is stiff, like intermediate track-day stiff... and soft is too soft anything that isn't Michigan roads. There should be from soft to stiff: bad road (Michigan), normal road (maintained city/interstate), stiff road (properly graded curvy/back roads), and track mode, as the 4 preload options.

However, and I say this with the utmost praise at a $14k bike: It is the best compromise for a suspension system from the factory in my opinion.

Only things I find myself wishing for on the bike is illuminated/backlit switch gears and a dash that can tilt.

6 hours ago, betoney said:

I'm finding the same applies to new and used bike prices, I was looking on cycletrader.com for '19-'20 Tracer GT's and some USED ones are listed at or above what MSRP was 2 years ago with a few listed as high as $14k.

Glad you're ok Betoney, that's what's important.

The asking prices of the of the "new old stock" units of '19-'20 were crazy when I was shopping after I totalled my '15. This was in large why I got the 21 T9GT; that and not many parts from my '15 fit on the '19-'20 models. I drove roughly 4-hours each way to get my T9GT for $1,000 off MSRP.

On the plus side the insurance payout should be high due to used vehicle prices inflating the market value, take it and shop around 🤑

Cheers,

1 hour ago, 2and3cylinders said:

Only 100 hp / 76 '# but down at 6300 at 10.1:1 CR and 270 degree crank to simulate a 90 degree V- twin, with throttle 5 modes, TC & Anti-wheelie though weirdly NO IMU or ABS mentioned, OR adjustable suspension!???

 

It has remote preload adjustability on rear shock and what looks like a tool-less preload dial on front fork in the pictures. We'll have to wait and see if it has damping adjustment with tools on release.

Not that I'm unhappy with the T9GT but that NT1100 is shaping up really well... damn.