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13 hours ago, tktplz said:

They do have an attachment for the No-Mar that mounts it to the 2 inch receiver on the rear of the truck or car for that matter. Then put it away when done. Just a thought. 

I know i saw that on their website, unfortunately my truck does not have a hitch on it. I used 5/8" drop in anchors that accept 1/2" bolts to mount the changer to my concrete floor. Luckily a buddy of mine is a HVAC guy and let me borrow his hammer drill to drill the holes. I can easily remove the changer and store it away in my shed for the winter. Then put the bolts back in the holes to keep debris out. 

14 hours ago, piotrek said:

I've been ogling the No-Mar for some time, but unfortunately floor spaces (space in general) is a big constraint for me at the moment. I take it that the tire change for the Gladius went well. I have kept a couple of old rears to sacrifice in training.

I know exactly what you mean as i did not have very much space for this either. No-Mar recommends a 5' radius around the changer and 12" space from the back of the changer. I had exactly 5' radius of floor space but could only manage about 8" from my wall. I'm not sure why the backspacing is important except maybe for the tool caddy. I swung mine to the left side of the machine anyway. 

Yes the Gladius tire change went fine. I still have to balance the tire with a static balancer i just picked up.  That will also be a first for me. That's why i am practicing on the girlfriend's bike before i attempt to change any of my own!

I recently bought the No-Mar Classic HD during the stimulus sale (which is still active) and used it for the first time yesterday. I've been wanting one for a while now. I will say that it's a very stout, sturdy & well built. Many of my tools are from Harbor Freight since their is a store less than 5 miles from my house. I bought my motorcycle lift from HF and while it has been great their tire changer just didn't look to good to me.

Being my first time using the No-Mar i was not very fast. For my trial run I mounted a new rear Conti-motion tire on my girlfriend's Gladius as the guinea pig. I had my lap open watching a youtube video for reference. I will agree with others that technique is key. The supplied special lube and keeping the tire in the drop center seem to be key elements to making the final stretch possible. That yellow thing tool is also a MUST have and does a great job of holding the bead. 

It was a fairly cool cloudy day so keeping the tire in the sun was not an option. It has been in my house for days but on the next tire i mount i will attempt to heat it with a hair dryer or some other method if sunshine is absent. I see that others have commented on RS3's being difficult to mount. That's what i plan on buying some for my Tracer soon since it was such a great tire on my previous FJ-09. 

I also have been getting the YES applications in the mail as my 2019 Tracer GT factory warranty expires next month. I know Yamaha's are known for their legendary reliability but i will probably buy the extended coverage as i plan to keep my bike for long term. I'm not concerned with any engine, drivetrain, or chassis related issues. Just mainly with the modern electronics such as the TFT cluster, LED headlamp and control unit, ABS unit and possibly the fuel pump.

I've been a parts guy for the past 30 yrs of my life. Many years in car dealers (mostly GM some import) and the past decade in heavy trucks (International, Mack, Volvo, and Kenworth). I know a motorcycle has little to do with a car or heavy truck but the more modern they get they tend to use similar electrical components. Over the years mostly what i've seen fail is to do with electronics which are some of the most expensive. I went online and priced a few items for my Tracer and this is what i found.

TFT cluster $973, ABS unit $644, LED headlamp assembly $510, Fuel pump $374. In my opinion any one of those items would be worth the cost of the YES warranty. Paying out of pocket for a TFT cluster sure would sting! 

14 hours ago, roadrash83 said:

The only bike I ever bought that I put an extended warranty on was a 2009 Buell 1125r. I forget what I paid for the warranty, but during the time I owned it The T-SHIRT company paid for over $7000.00 in parts and repairs. I sold the bike right before the extended warranty expired. The funny thing is I paid less than $5000.00 for it during the fire sale. If I ever bought a KTM I think I would get the extended  warranty. 

I also had a 2009 Buell 1125R, bought it used after the fire sale. I wish it had extended warranty on it. Probably one of the best looking bikes i ever owned (Arctic white/Blue) but i'm GLAD it's gone!

On 12/4/2020 at 10:17 AM, peteinpa said:

I wonder if the FZ-07 gets the exact same chain? When I traded mine at 10k miles it was perfect. With the FJ-09's extra HP and torque, it will wear faster.

Just looked it up, OEM the FZ-07 has a DID 525VZ.   

OEM FJ-09 has a DID 525V10. I "think" the FZ-07 gets a better chain with the "Z" designation.

I do not know if they are different or what the letter designation on the OEM chains mean.  I also own a 2019 XSR900 with similar 4K miles that has the same OEM DID chain as my Tracer GT, just a bit shorter. I can tell you that my XSR chain is absolutely fine, no missing or torn o-rings whatsoever. Makes me lean towards the possibility of quality control issues on the Tracer chains. I suppose time will tell. 

On 11/15/2020 at 9:41 AM, rockinsv said:

I use Dupont Chain Saver, it cleans and lubes great. I got 22,000 miles out of my OEM chain and it was still going great, I just changed it for peace of mind while changing a rear tire.

I used to use that Dupont chain saver back when i had my Triumph Tiger 1050 because that bike had such a short chain guard and threw regular lube everywhere. I never thought it lubed all that well to me so i stopped using it. Seems like you had great luck with it though!

The dealer replaced my chain this past weekend under warranty. Before i took it in i inspected the chain further and discovered a total of 4 o-rings were completely missing. They were obviously at the links that were already bound up. I would be interested to know if the owners with 2020 Tracers experience chain problems as they get more miles on them. 

The Tracer and Tracer GT actually has a realistic chain spec of 35-45mm in the owners manual. Not like the 5-15mm guitar string spec of the earlier FJ-09. I keep my Tracer GT adjusted to 45mm. On my previous FJ-09 i kept it adjusted to 35mm. When i traded that bike in on the Tracer it had just under 10K. The chain was just starting to wear as to be expected but no torn or missing o-rings.

37 minutes ago, Clegg78 said:

I was doing cleaning on my chain (I am at 4000mi), and noticed the chain jump a bunch when spinning on the center stand just idle in 1st gear when I was spraying degreaser on the chain.   I didn't see any O-rings showing yet, but its clear a few links in the chain are binding up a bit.   I've replaced a number of chains over the years and have the tools for a proper master link setting (I do NOT trust screw style master links!!).   So I am going to order a higher end DID or EK chain for the bike over the winter.   Not sure what is up with the batch of chains on these 2019's but... they seem to be crap.

That's what i was going to, just order a new aftermarket DID chain and replace it myself. I just hope the replacement warranty chain is better than the OEM one was. I guess i'll find out next year. My chain also has 4 links that are bound up but only 1 visibly torn o-ring. 

54 minutes ago, mellow said:

Mine didn't budge... said it was a wear issue and that's that... oh well.  I didn't really argue at all, I only go to a dealer one time during the life of my bikes and that's to pick it up.  They never see me again lol

That's exactly what the local dealer here about 8 miles away told me. I did not buy the bike from them. I just recalled how they botched up the handlebar recall on my old FJ-09 a few years back so maybe it's a good thing they denied me.

I then consulted with my dealer that i purchased the bike from about 100 miles away. They didn't think it would be covered but they offered to check into it and Yamaha approved. Sometimes i guess it worth a second attempt. I'm like you though. Unless it's a recall or warranty repair i usually never go back to a dealer after the purchase. 

On 10/23/2020 at 10:44 AM, Shizzle said:

I ordered the Bagster Seat today with the Bultex Foam. For under $400 at ChromeBurner it seemed like  a bargain. Might have to do the seat slope mod also in conjunction with the new seat. 

 

Bagster Ready Luxe Yamaha MT-09 Tracer 900 GT 2018-2019 Black Woven Suede Red Bultex Seat - ChromeBurner

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A Bagster seat is a big improvement in both style and comfort for any bike...

 

Sorry i'm in on this late. I went through the same stock seat woes and ordered the Bagster Ready luxe seat with bultex foam. I have not done the seat slope mod yet but i have followed the threads on it. I also ordered mine from Chromeburner it was on sale for $359 back in the spring and arrived in like 5 days. Amazing how fast parts arrive from overseas isn't it? Can't seem to get stuff here in the U.S. that fast sometimes.

I recognize some of the members on your thread that also responded to my thread and helped me pull the trigger on my Bagster purchase. Anyhow I have ridden over 3,000 miles on mine this summer and i love it. I found it be both a comfortable and great looking addition to the bike. It also seems to reduce the ride height a tad and have not had any issue with water intrusion. I really wanted a Corbin but they always seem too tall for me. Hope you enjoy your Bagster.

I got some good news from the dealer i purchased my Tracer from yesterday. Yamaha approved warranty coverage on my chain so it will get a new one. They ordered it and should be in next week. 

Roadrash83.... if your 2019 was a leftover late purchase like mine was maybe it's worth a call to check with your dealer.

5 hours ago, angrygirafe said:

Chain wax is great, and I use it exclusively. But grit does stick in it, and if you aren’t cleaning the old wax off before applying the new, you’re kind of just sealing in the debris. Maybe it’s working its way to your rings. I think I got around 17k out of my OEM chain, cleaning and chain wax every 500-600 miles

Thanks for the tip. I use one of those "grease ninja" tools when i lube my chain. There is small oil jets that are supposed to put the lube directly over the o-rings. Maybe it's not that good after all. What baffles me is that my XSR900 is the same year with same amount of miles and that chain is fine. Looks like i'll just install a new higher quality aftermarket chain.

12 hours ago, peteinpa said:

Do all Fj's and Tracers come with the same chain as OEM? Mine is a DID chain, at 3 k miles its perfect yet.

Yes i believe so. My previous FJ-09 had an OEM chain made by DID as does my XSR and Tracer GT.

13 hours ago, mellow said:

I had a similar issue with my oem chain... and I didn't feel like I trusted it so I went with the EK 525x118 chain w/screw master link and that has been great.  I changed it at 6k miles and it has 6k on it now and looks like new.

That's exactly what i found with my OEM chain, an o-ring sticking out like yours.

I bought my 2019 Tracer GT as a new leftover earlier this spring in March 2020. It just turned 4,000 miles and today i was cleaning the chain after performing 4K service. I use Maxima chain cleaner and a rag as i always do at the end of the riding season.  As i was cleaning the chain i noticed a torn o-ring sticking up out of the chain! Upon further inspection i noticed that there are a total of 4 kinked links in the chain.

This seems very pre-mature to me at only 4,000 miles. I also own a 2019 XSR900 with the same amount of miles and that chain is fine. I maintain it in the same manner as my Tracer or any chain driven bike that i have ever owned. Lube every 400 miles or sooner after being ridden in the rain, and a thorough cleaning either at the end of the riding season or at time of a tire change. I use Maxima chain wax as my normal lube and have never subjected my chains to a brush. Just wondering if anyone else has experienced pre-mature 0-ring failure at such low mileage. 

I called the local dealer and they said that a chain is not a warrantable item. I then called the dealer that i bought the bike from about 100 miles away for a second opinion. They pretty much said the same thing but asked for my VIN and offered to contact Yamaha for me which i thought was decent of them. I just recently replaced the OEM chain and sprockets on my girlfriend's 2009 Suzuki Gladius at 21K so i know how to do this and have a chain tool. It's not really a major expense or overly difficult job. At least at 4K i probably won't have to replace the sprockets on my Tracer. What is your favorite brand of aftermarket chain?

1 hour ago, peteinpa said:

I think 20-50 is too heavy for the FJ-09 and almost any liquid cooled bike. Yamaha's chart for oil viscocities based on temp. is old school. it only applies at cold start up. Once warm, being liquid cooled, outside temp.  is irrelevant.

Honda has updated all its oil reccomendations to 10-30 in all bikes even air cooled ones.

10-40 for me forever in my FJ.

Give that oil to someone with a hardly abelson.

Agree with peteinpa. 20w50 is too heavy for a modern liquid cooled motorcycle engine. That Mobil 1 V-twin 20w50 synthetic is great oil for HD though. Been running it in my air cooled Buell's for for almost 2 decades.

On 9/18/2020 at 11:14 AM, rlambke19 said:

According to Pyramid Plastics, it's the same hugger, just with an extra bracket or two to support it better.

I bought mine last year and they are sending me the brackets free-of-charge, so if you don't get them, I would contact them and let them know and I'm sure they'll make it right. I find them to be very responsive via FB Messenger.

Rob

I received my new hugger yesterday and it is the earlier version dated 5/12/2020 without the brackets. I emailed Pyramid right away. They replied this morning and said it was no problem to send me the updated fitting kit. They were also courteous enough to make me aware that i will have to drill 2 extra holes in the hugger. Great customer service!

I recently had my 2019 XSR900 flashed by a vendor on the FZ-09.org forum called Vcyclenut. My flash included disabling the AIS system and i also installed the block off plates to insure absolutely NO AIR enters the system. Apparently this is still possible even after the AIS is disabled. He was very thorough and told me that the check engine light will come on at first startup and also told me how to clear it with a simple automotive type OBD2 code reader. You will need to purchase an adapter plug to connect the code reader to the 4 terminal square plug under your seat. I purchased mine from Amazon for like $25. Very simple to do and it worked for me just like he said it would. Here is the link to the adapter cable that i purchased.

Thank you Rob. I will check for the brackets when it arrives. I just emailed MPW where i ordered it from but they are very close to closing time for the weekend over in the UK.   

Mike

I just saw this thread after i ordered a 072447M hugger from Motorcycle Parts Warehouse in the UK a couple days ago. I wonder what the chances are that i will get an early or later improved hugger. I guess i'll find out when it arrives. 

16 hours ago, TheBigG said:

Take a look at my bike! 

 

 

You will also find my impression about the screen. I think it is a good screen, effective and good looking. I can ride in the rain or cold weather with no problems at all. For me it feels just a bit to short so I get wind noise on top of the helmet but with the deflector and the saddle in the lower position it's better than before. 

Thank you for the link to your post and opinion on the windscreen. Those are some serious accessories you have installed. I like the center led light bar, might look into one of those for my bike. 

If you go back to Pg #3 of this thread member gerdawg posted a photo of the Yamaha touring screen and on Pg #5 member harraseeket also posted a photo. The screen definitely looks clear. I didn't realize that this thread was started almost 2 years ago. Now that i see some photos of the Puig screen i think it will be too large/tall for me. I am only 5' 8" so the Yamaha screen will probably be my choice. 

I'm sorry i do not have the Yamaha comfort seat. I went with a Bagster seat which i think is slightly lower than stock.. When you buy a new bike most dealers give you %15 off in the first 30 days to order accessories. Maybe it would be worth the wait and riding on the stock seat for the first couple weeks to get a discount on the comfort seat. Just my thought. 

Congratulations on your new Tracer GT. You will love it!