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26 minutes ago, betoney said:

I wonder if these CEL's are all on 2017 and newer models when the electronics changed?  I had the ECU flashed on my 2015 by 2WDW as did my buddy (he also owns a 2015) and neither of us had CEL's pop up.  I have had mine flashed 3 times, first time was basic flash, 2nd time was to turn on the Active Tune and the 3rd time was for a fuel map for the Scorpion exhaust and no CEL. 🤷‍♀️

Very well could be the case. Below is the response from 2WDW.

"The check engine light is often on specifically with the FZ/FJ-09 models only as a side effect of powering up the ECU outside of the bike. Any local shop or dealership can clear the codes for you within seconds through the diagnostic port in the tail of the bike, and then you're good to go! The light won't come back on unless there's actually a problem in the future. Riding the bike with the light on now won't cause any issues whatsoever."

This leads me to believe that it's either due to the new electronics on the newer models, and/or the lack of ability to clear the codes on said ECU while off the bike unless the tuner has the proper software to fix it.

Again, I'm no tech guy and just taking a wild guess...

2 hours ago, iitywygms said:

Not that I am offering any help but why would it be normal to have a check engine light come on?  My 2019 California bike (extra smog crap) was flashed by Ivan and I never had a check engine light come on. 

 

Ivan may have different software that allows him to make those adjustments to prevent throwing the code and/or his flash service is just that much more involved/fine tuned with more work put into it compared to 2WDW. (I'm no tech guy). So maybe 2WDW can chime in as to why that's the case?

I do know however, that the tune from Ivan is $50-100 more than 2WDW...whether it's a shortfall, limitation of software availability that 2WDW have/doesn't have or they just run a more basic tune which is why they charge less for their tune. 

Also, this was confirmed by 2WDW after reaching out to them about the check light.

After receiving and installing my flashed ECU from 2WDW, the engine light came on. After having my local shop clear the codes it hasn't been on since. My local shop guy says it's normal for that to throw codes (unless the flash is done while on the bike). You can take to a shop or dealer for them to remove the codes, or as suggested above getting your own code reader so you can clear the codes yourself. Unplugging and plugging back in wont clear the fault codes.

32 minutes ago, fr8dog said:

While you're at it, try Wentworth Springs Rd. out of Georgetown between 80 and 50. @koth442 can vouch for it. He's from that area. Lots of great roads in that area. 

Yep...Rode Wentworth Springs the last couple weekends. Great road for sure!

Thanks for sharing...I haven't made my way up there yet. I should just do it.

The adjuster knob on the bars (for the most part) really only adjusts the lever tension/distance and degree of pull/travel (based upon the setting of the adjustment screw on the right side near the motor.

The adjustment screw on the right side near the motor really makes the biggest impact of the tension pulling from the clutch plates. (regardless of clutch lever adjustment, the adjuster screw at the motor tightens/loosens tension on cable from motr side = too long of cable, can't disengage clutch plates fully, too short of cable, clutch might not fully engage clutch plates in proper gear).

(at least this is how it what described to me)

Have you tried adjusting the clutch cable on the right side located down by the motor? This along with the clutch perch adjustment should work.

3 hours ago, Wintersdark said:

It's fine.  The difference on that side is because of the thicker part of the axle.  The spacers and such align based on the "screwed in" side. 

Good to know. Thank you.

not a fan of it not being symmetrical, but glad it's a non issue....haha

I came across another thread in the Tracer 900 section that got me thinking. Below are a couple pictures of the front wheel (left and right) showing the difference in spacing from the couplers (spacers) sheen in the factory manual. It appears that the left side (non-ABS side) there is a gap between the coupler and the fork. On the right side (ABS side) the coupler is flush with the fork. Is this the way it is or will this need to be fixed? The manual doesn’t show a clear picture. 

10 hours ago, justin said:

do you find the shorty to be more comfortable than the standard?

I like the shorty levers on both. I have small hands and shorter fingers so they work great for me.

short vs. standard length on clutch (for me) has zero difference on one being more/less easier to pull. But the short lever allows 2-3 finger pull to the bar without crushing the remaining fingers.

I got the RC2 shorty for my 2017 from RevZilla. According to their fitment chart, these should fit your 2016.

2016 Yamaha FJ-09 Parts & Accessories - RevZilla

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2 hours ago, betoney said:

You gotta love California legislation 🙄

 

This product is legal in California only for racing vehicles which may never be used, registered or licensed for use upon a highway.

Warning: This product contains Glass Wool Fibers that are known to The State of California to cause cancer and reproductive harm. For more information go to www.P65Warnings.ca.gov

Full systems and catalytic convertor eliminating slip-ons are not legal in California on pollution controlled vehicles for highway use unless noted. May not meet local sound requirements, check local laws before installing. Race waiver available. Items NOT marked “Emission Controls Removed” may still NOT be legal in the state of California.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiigght.....haha.

work and the wife's family are the only thing keeping me here. (Well, the weather and plethora of roads and places to ride are a huge plus being in Nor Cal)

12 hours ago, 2and3cylinders said:

Where'd you get it that cheap?  Thx

I got it from 58cycle.com.

solomotoparts.com also has it, but they couldn't ship to California. 

4 hours ago, mingo said:

Is it possible to remove the stock headers and exhaust without removing the center stand? I'd like to install a full Akrapovic system and would prefer not to remove and re-install the center stand. 

As stated above,...yes. I'd suggested getting a second pair of hands to make the task easier. I removed my stock exhaust with the center stand still mounted. It took some work and finagling, but I was able to do it myself. If I had to do it again I'd enlist my wife to help.

Man...I should have waited and saved myself $0.01. Dang it!

Just kidding. Thanks agin you guys for all of your communication. I'll be installing mine that you just sent back this weekend.

5 hours ago, Pricey said:

Thanks for the reply , I've never heard of that make I'll check them out tho ,that's sounds cheap for a full system ,I'll have to make sure which ever one I go with meets the UK regs , cheers thankyou

Just to clarify and to confirm you were replying to me,...it's a Two Brothers Racing exhaust system. It's in their "Storm series" and the model is the "Cyclone". It's a "race exhaust" and is meant for closed course. Therefore, it probably won't pass government inspection/regulations. (I.e. Here in California, it is not "DOT approved".) So not sure what your regulations are out there.

Two Brothers Racing does make a compliant exhaust, the "S1R". Check them out.

I went with the Two Bros Cyclone storm series full system for $549.

I can't tell you how it sounds since I'm still waiting on my ECU. But I've had Two Bros on a couple other sportbikes, and I really liked them. There's also a couple different decibel killer inserts you could choose from.

2 hours ago, rodb47 said:

We don't have the amount of bike theft other countries do. That's my guess for not having an immobilizer. I don't think I've even seen one on any brand in the US except Harley. Back on topic, I wonder if a 17 ECU from an FZ, MT, or XSR would work? Same engine.

Was wroth a double check,...but that's a big negative, ghost rider. The MT, FZ and XSR are all different. Even looked through a couple years.

I also called a couple salvage yards and came up empty. Shucks...out of luck on that. Looks like the long wait and high price will soon begin.

1 hour ago, rodb47 said:

We don't have the amount of bike theft other countries do. That's my guess for not having an immobilizer. I don't think I've even seen one on any brand in the US except Harley. Back on topic, I wonder if a 17 ECU from an FZ, MT, or XSR would work? Same engine.

Good thought...but I think I checked that the OEM part numbers are different, thus won't work. But I will look again to double check that.

2 hours ago, betoney said:

U.S. models do not have an immobilizer.  #9 is not mentioned in our manual.

Well that's good new for me I guess...one less thing to worry about.

Now to just see what options for a used one there are before unloading my wallet at the dealer

I'll need to look into that whole security key thing...

5 hours ago, BBB said:

There are two on sale in the UK for £200. What is interesting from the ads is that they say it works for a range of manufacturing years e.g. 2015-17 so that may help if you’ve only been searching for 2017. 

If you are planning to get the ECU flashed then perhaps the ECU can be sourced from an even wider range?

The other thing that I hadn't thought about is the ads included another set of keys, as you’ll need them as they are part of the anti-theft design. I’m guessing that you’ll either have to switch out the ignition lock, or an easier approach would be to keep your original lock set and just carry the “new” key as well, so that its within transponder range. I’m presuming the US has the same ECU/key/security set up.

I've talked with Yamaha, and the '17 is a one off doe only that year. I've also spoken with 2WDW and because the older models aren't compatible with the '17, the flash still wouldn't be able to be configured for the '17.

There may be a high probability that I'll be needing to get another ECU for my '17. I can discuss reason "why" I need one ove PM. So let's keep this thread on topic.

I'm wondering if anyone has a line on an ECU for the 2017. I've checked eBay with no luck. I'll be calling my local salvage yard in the next couple of days. I've called my local dealer, and was told that there are 0 in stock stateside and even Japan is out. Thus, once an order is placed I'd be looking at 3-6 months plus if I'm lucky just to get one here. So,....suggestions? Anyone know another route I could go?

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On February 25, 2020 at 3:20 PM, betoney said:

They currently have a Tax Season Sale as advertised on their website for $265, ask for it!

I appreciate the heads up...but I had already got the Black Friday deal last year and just now getting it sent out for the flash.

Good looking out though!