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They do feel good and will improve braking with good pads.  However, I had my rear line fail and lock up the rear brake., The inner tubing collapsed and wouldn't let fluid back to the master cylinder.  

Preload is set for my riding weight, 200lbs.  Without the foot ext it leans just right. 

14 minutes ago, RaYzerman said:

If the bike has been lowered, it will stand up straighter....... is that why it tipped over on the right side?

Not lowered.  It was a similar foot like I had on my FZ but on that bike I had a an R1 rear shock which raised the rear about 1/4" to 1/2".  The T9GT is stock and the foot made it stand almost verticle.

I added a foot extension and the bike fell over on the right side.  Removed the foot extension. 

I opted for the SHAD45 top case and rack.  No Yamaha cases or racks were available when I bought my T9GT in 2021.  Yes, it requires  a separate key but then I'm used to that from my former bikes.

55 minutes ago, johnmark101 said:

Have been riding the area since 2004.  Definitely take the Tracer.  It will be plenty agile on the Dragon.  Have ridden mine there each year since I bought it and never once wished I had something smaller.  Unless you just want to go full attack mode, which means taking big risks, the Tracer will do all you need on the Dragon.  Take your time the first time through, it is VERY tight and twisty with elevation changes.  Try to ride it in the morning mid week as that is when it is the least busy.  Weekends can be crazy on that road.

Another consideration is the fact that there are literally hundreds of miles of fantastic roads in the area where NC, TN and GA share borders and if you have time you should explore as many as possible.  The Tracer will let you do so in comfort.  Close by are the Foothills Parkway, Route 28 and the Cherohala Skyway.  The Cherohala is considered by many to be the best road, and is one you should make a point of riding while in the area.  

I agree^

The speed limit there is between 25 and 50 kmh (15 to 30mph) and the roads are frequently patrolled.  I usually stayed in first or second gear on my FZ-01 (a 1L bike).  Also you have the back of the Dragon and the Devil Triangle and if you go east toward Ashville you can go north on the Blue Ridge Parkway.

My dealer gave me a couple male power connectors for free, they had a drawer full of pigtailed connectors.  The hard wire is the way to go so the GPS is on a keyed power supply.

2 hours ago, FarmForce said:

The '23 T9GT+ has an improved QS (Gen 3) where now you can down shift at any throttle setting and do not need to close the throttle before a downshift as on the current Gen2 QS. That is a significant improvement of the utility of the QS!

The main advantage of the Gen 3 QS is that it works together with the ACC so when the ACC slows the bike down you can down shift without canceling the ACC and the same goes for accelerating.  Without the ACC on it works the same as a Gen 2 but without the need to down throttle.  This is the info I was able to glean off the write ups and reviews.

I saw an MT-10 fitted out for touring in Italy but didn't get a chance to chat with the owner.  It had a GIVI windscreen and both side V37 and top 50L cases. Very impressive looking.  Me, I was on a Ducati Monster 821.

I believe the QS is a Gen 3 to be used with the ACC. 

First ride was a Suzuki X-6 Hustler in 1967 and I've been hooked ever since.  I may not be as fast as I used to be or as strong.  Now I have bladder cancer but still riding with the help of Depends.  My current ride is a 21 T9GT which replaced my 12 FZ-01.  I felt that I could use the rider assists to help out in case.  Love the bike and even the dash, so much better than just a speedometer and tach with idiot lights. 

7 hours ago, 2and3cylinders said:

And a check is different than adjustment...

It includes any adjustment if needed.

My mechanic charges about $300 to do the valve check.

Not a big fan of linked brakes and rarely use cruise control in the Chicago area, way too much traffic.  Also I feel that adaptive CC can lull someone into a false sense of security and won't be situationaly aware of their surroundings.

I do like that you can use the QS without having to reset the CC.

The seat does look like the Yamaha comfort seat and looks squishy from the videos I saw.  Not for me, I like a firm seat.

The dash looks nice but I think it may start to get crowded with the idiot lights and small numbers, however, the BT would be nice as well as a couple USB ports.  I had to install a dual USB on my T9GT for $20 and 15 minutes of work.  Navigation on the 2023 is a subscription setup from Garmin, get a Zumo XT which has lifetime updates and is also easy to install.

The white color is nice but the grey not so much.  Also remember that the side cases have the matching panels in Europe and not in the USA or Canada, we get black and a reflector. 

For $17,000 (est) I would have liked to see auxillary lights for better daytime visibility. 

I've seen an MT10 set up for touring in Italy but I didn't speak to the owner about his mileage.  The distances between towns in Europe is much shorter than in the USA and Canada so a gas hog works except for the cost of fuel.

On 6/22/2021 at 1:06 PM, tclhb said:

Any tips are appreciated! 😊

Not sure what I can suggest about the seat as I find the stock seat in the low position very comfortable.  I'm 5'10" weigh 175 pounds with a 31" inseam and sitting on Depends undergarments (those tend to get uncomfortable when full).  Maybe it's the way you rest your feet on the pegs that pushes you forward.

I did a 2,000+ mile ride and never felt the seat was uncomfortable, also glad to have cruise control to rest my right arm and relieve shoulder pain from a torn rotator cuff.  The last 460 miles was in the rain and the side cases stayed dry inside.

Yep, my 2021 T9GT is 2mph above the radar digital display and GPS speed on the Zumo XT.

At least that's better than the 2012 FZ-01 which was 8mph off at 70 mph. 

After buying a 2021 T9GT  in 2021 and taking it a a few long distance rides covering 8K miles I can say in my opinion that i like the seat, dash and windscreen.  All work as designed.  I did have a defect when picking up the bike and with COVID and supply chain it took a while to get the replacement part but I was able to make a work around that worked.

Now about the dash, does anyone remember two analog dials and a bunch of idiot lights on your beloved old bike?  The dash is able to give you all the information you need or want at a glance.  Nothing wrong about that.  The seat, it is firm and wide agreed but after spending 8+ hours in the saddle I felt fine, also I wear Depends under garments to make things worse.  The windscreen does allow a lot of air to hit you but it is adjustable and at 5'10" I find the there is no turbulence at 80+mph compared to my FZ-01 with a Zero Gravity touring screen.  Another thing is the helmet, mine is a Nolan 100-5 which is pretty aerodynamic and fits great so my head isn't bobbing around.

Bottom line is that at 72+YO I felt I needed a bike with all the electronic rider aids to help me ride on.  This bike provides all the aids needed.  OK so I ride in D-Mode 1 or 2 and TCS on 1 and suspension on 2 (Chicago streets are rough) also have cornering ABS on.  Cruise control allows me to rest my arthritic shoulder on long stretches of slab.

Overall this bike is the best bang for I buck that I ever owned or ridden.

BTW I rode a 2019 Tracer 900 in Spain and France and didn't like the dash at all but it was better than the Ducati Monster I rode in the Alps.

For me the stock T9GT seat may be one of the most comfortable ones I've had. However, l do have to wear Depends undergarments and my bottom gets quite sweaty on a hot day but it's still OK to ride.  I did a 2K mile ride around Lake Superior and Michigan with no seat discomfort.  I did encounter rain from Escanaba MI to Chicago IL the bike ran great on the T32 tires in the wet.  My pants are TourMaster Caliber and stayed dry.  The only pant I stuff in the boots are race pants which are meant to be in the boot. 

I too came off a series of I-4 bikes but rented a T900GT in Spain and felt no loss of power on the mountain road (about 25,000 curves in 900 miles).  So when the T9GT became available I bought one and no looking back. I think it was a good choice and I'm beginning to appreciate all the rider aids it has (first bike with those).  Once you get used to the menu wheel it works pretty good.  I turn on the cruise control if I want to change the setting while riding.

Regardless, enjoy your new ride as it is such a sorted out bike. 

Been there on the Grossglockner.  Awesome views and we had liquid sunshine on the way down.

Still I liked Falsereggo and Stelvio too. 

I guess in 2021 Yamaha stiffened the rear frame to carrymore weight but they still use the pre 2021 stickers on the luggage.

I have noticed that the bike balances to to the rear when on the center stand where all three cases are packed.  My top case is a SHAD SH45 which also has a sturdier mount. 

3 hours ago, betoney said:

On ‘15 and ‘16 models you could access a diagnostic mode through the dash. On ‘17 and newer models you clear the codes through the OBD reader, flashing the ECU is NOT used to clear error codes. 

That may be true for those years, however, it may be necessary to reflash the T9GT of 2021 and 2022. According to the Yamaha Service Manager at the dealer.  It isn't just an error code. 

You'll need to get a ECU reflash to clear the EML and allow access to the settings.  It takes about 5 to 10 minutes at the dealer.  I don't know if an OBD can do the job.

It isn't the TCS that causes the EML to go on, it is the ABS which cannot be turned off.  Also you may find that the settings menu may not be functioning as well.

Best to put it on the center stand, keep the engine off and manually rotate the rear wheel to lube the chain.

My T9GT clutch is as smooth as silk.  I ride in heavy city traffic loaded with stop lights and stop signs so I'm constantly using the clutch.

If the vibration is as bad as you said I would take it into the shop and have them check it out.