Dodgy Knees

My mate got a loan 2020 tiger 900 gt while his 1050 was in for service so was a good opportunity to compare. I did about 50miles on nice fast twisties.

First thing was engine,  very similar to the tracer.  Pin it through  2/3/4 and the pull is much the same, plenty. Nice engine tone on overun.

Seat was a bit lower, pegs lower and forward and a bit close to the road. Nice phone charger under seat. Very thinly padded seat but OK for 50 miles.

Rev counter on Tft screen is terrible,  too fancy but plenty of other info. Easy preload shock adjustment. 

I noticed immediately, your sat further back on the bike, upright and overall it does have an  adventure look and feel as it should.  Back on the tracer,  immediately more sporty. Sat forward and aggressive riding seems more natural and easy. Tracer pegs are further back. 180 rear opposed to tigers 150.

Both great bikes but for me the tracer is what I prefer.  Tiger is an adventure bike, Tracer is a sports tour and this difference is obvious once your moving.  

On 8/5/2020 at 5:53 PM, HGP61 said:

Just back from helping My friend out by taking his wheels and new tires down to be fitted. His GT is sitting at just over 4,000 miles an the stock tires and both front and rear tire were looking close to the limit not as bad as the old set I had replaced but maybe only good for another 1000 miles. We are heading off on Saturday for a weeks touring and He wasn't confident they would do the distance.

 I'm just passed 4k on stock tyres and there ain't much left. Front has worn the most. Got some cheap maxiss to try.

 How was the tour.?

I'll go 42.5 nm.  😉👍

Anyone fitted these and whats the engine mount bolt torque,?  cheers.

YAMAHA TRACER 900GT CRASH BOBBINS 2018+ EvoTech Performance

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Evotech Performance Yamaha Tracer 900GT crash bobbins are...

How was the wear on the old tyre.?  Not sure why he would do this,  should be OK though.  👍

Bought these to try something different.  Very comfortable but not fully waterproof.  I've also got sealskin waterproof socks now aswel.

On a proper trip I'd probably wear my tcx goretex. 

3 minutes ago, Stew said:

Never been to Wales without the roads being heaving with bikes.
That weather looks proper miserable.

A very wet day... don't mind the odd day riding in the rain, as long as I stay dry.  Feet got wet in short lace up boots.  👎

Harlech castle. West Wales.     Barmouth fun land.   The road there.    ☹

You could always buy a second hand stock and have a play with it yourself.  Foam/gel.

 Welcome Paul, you have chosen well with the tracer triple.  I get in Wales a lot living near Shrewsbury,  was in Criccieth the other day, lovely fish n chips. 

Have a look at 'ultimate addons' for decent waterproof phone mounts. Very good quality. 👍

2 hours ago, jrubicon said:

im at 12500 miles, got mine may 2019, new chain at 6k miles. as much as i love  the tracer, im looking at the 1290 superduke gt. 

maybe i had gotten used to the power and would like some more? i really like the single side arm on the ktm, the power and lots of electronic goodies.

anyhow, only looking, still plan to putting alot of miles on the tracer

I had a  17 sdgt before the tracer. I got rid because of niggles with all those electronic goodies. It also used oil. Left side switch gear needed replacing  Easier finding  bin laden  than neutral.  Suspension settings weren't great. Didn't fancy owning after warranty...  Buy discounted new if possible,  you may need your warranty. 

Gen 2 from 2018 all the same afaik.

Strange...have a good look at tyre fitting, bulges etc or maybe brake binding on one side.??  Never heard of this before. 

Never used them before, was thinking PR 4/5. Looking last night and saw them on ebay, from a bike shop.  I normally pay that for a front, so for the pair it a very good price. 👍

I got these today. No idea what there like but for £109 for the pair, I'll give them a go. 

@daboo   👏👏👏   Brilliant...and those photos fantastic.  Your so lucky to have these landscapes within riding distance.  👍

 My final word on this excellent thread.

The Tracer is pretty much the perfect bike for me . Only things I am not 100% happy with, are the seat and screen.  I fitted the puig sports screen soon after purchase, not sorted seat yet.  Brakes, suspension,  riding position,  weight,  power, all good,  Oh, not sure about colour choice.

 I'm only 73kg, don't take pillions 99.9% of the time. So the soft suspension hasn't been an issue for me. Grab rail is great for Rok strapping down large bags when touring. I really like the stubby exhaust style. 

 For me, its a cracker. 👍

 Ps  Also like the xsr 900 but it ain't quite as practical as the tracer.  

23 minutes ago, iitywygms said:

I wish I could do a before and after comparison of a ecu flash.  I am getting use to the abruptness of the throttle, but I still notice it quite a bit.  Like going over bumps on the road cause a noticeable change in the throttle just because my hand moves a bit while going over bumps.  All while in standard mode.  I'm nervous to go into to A mode right now.  Hopefully a ecu flash mellows it out a bit.

If your finding standard too jerky, then maybe a ECU flash is required. 

29 minutes ago, betoney said:

I don't understand your conflicting argument, - Yes, the A-mode is too jerky but no, don't bother flashing the ECU to fix it?  That's the main selling point of the ECU flash,- remove fuel cut abrupt fueling and add a dyno-built smoother fuel map.

I have mine flashed for smoothness and set to default to A-mode which is now perfect for for everyday riding.  The biggest benefit of A-mode is the quick-turn throttle but it doesn't have to be abrupt, jerky or track use only.

These bikes have 3 modes. I can only think B is for winter, icey condition.  Standard is what I would call road use or normal use. That leaves A for more aggressive riding at higher speeds, maybe track.

 If you flash A to default,  everyday, normal road use, then when would you use standard.?

1 hour ago, johnmark101 said:

I don't think Yamaha intended to put a "track only" mode on a sport tourer.  Smooth throttle response is even more important on the track where you are pushing the limits of traction and need to be as smooth as possible with your inputs while leaned over and near the limits of available grip.  I ride in A mode on the street and find it just fine after the reflash.  Before, it was quite abrupt at the point where you crack open the throttle mid corner.  It's still not as smooth as I would like, but it is noticeably better.  

Manufacturers program in a fuel cut off at closed throttle in order to perform better under emissions testing.  Getting rid of this improves throttle response.  Some bikes will respond better to eliminating this than others.  Also, some tuners get better results than others with different bikes...….something to consider.

I agree that if you ride the bike only in standard mode, throttle response is decent, but could still be better.  Once you have ridden a bike with perfectly smooth fueling anything less is annoying.     

Fair point,  but personally I found the A mode jerkyness only a problem at very low speeds. Turning at traffic lights, little bump in the road and the slightest throttle movement and the bike would pull, junctions etc. On track or higher speeds, the jerkyness wasn't really there.

 Many manufacturers will sell you a track pack but the tracer gets one standard. Sort of. 🙂

 In all honesty,  and on many bikes, these engine modes are all a waste of time imo. A decent standard setting of wrist/fuel should suffice all needs, whether on track, dry or wet road.  We should all be capable of good wrist control.  👍

Btw...what is B mode for. ?

On the newer tracer, I wouldn't bother. Yes, A mode is more abrupt,  but it's supposed to be.  I used A mode on track recently,  and it was great, standard aswel tbh. Never use B. 

On the streets, A mode is too jerky , very sensitive,  that's what standard is for, perfect. A mode for track basically. 

 It's a bit like some folk saying, 6th gear being too high for normal use. Changing gearing to get more use of top gear. But when cruising  at 80/90 mph, you'll be glad of the higher gear. Imo. 

You don't need to used every feature of the bike on every ride. 👍

Just had a look at this.  🤔  with seat support in lower position,  forward and seat front tab in high, there is movement, so washers could support in raised position but seat doesn't look right.

With seat support in high position,  towards rear, seat is tight with no movement. Mine looks nothing like photo. Looks all on the piss.  What am I missing here.?

Yep, just tighten the 10mm nut under rubber cap. 👆  just be careful  when you grind down a socket bit you don't take too much off, bit at a time.  👍

Easy and safe. 👍

I use the recommended torque for axle nuts. Dont torque much else. Had a bike once and if you over did it, wheels bearings would fail early.