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  1. I'm looking forward to the comparison reviews. We have the Tracer GT, the Multistrada, the BMW F900XR, and now the Triumph 900. It'll make for good reading. :) Chris
  2. I'm always a little reticent to post here. I don't own an FJ-09 or Tracer. I test rode the FJ initially and ended up with the BMW F800GT; it just fits me better. I keep in touch here because I love motorcycling...and the Tracer GT would be on my short list if I needed to replace my F800GT. The Yamaha is really a superb motorcycle. But the comments you made are spot on with what I experienced last summer. Previous to this one ride, I'd ridden fast with some pretty experienced riders. They were hard core riders who don't think anything of riding from places like Alberta or Nevada to go to a small rally in Eastern Washington. Not only can they put on the miles like that, but they ride fast in the turns. Then I joined up with a group of riders from British Columbia. Each year they head south to experience the isolated roads in Northern California and Oregon. They were like a class above the other group. They had modified their ECUs to get about 150+ hp at the rear wheel. You'd think I'd be left behind with only 90 hp in my F800GT. I was initially. Then I decided to skip looking at the scenery, which wasn't special, and just focus on the road...and explore the upper reaches of my bike's rpm range. I kept up just fine. I rode with two Microsoft guys on Ducatti Multistrada 1260s at the end of the summer down in Oregon. Again, I kept up just fine. You mentioned the curves. I got a chuckle out of the BC riders. They were on Kawasaki Concours C14s. Wonderful bikes. They are on the "sport" side of sport-touring, I suppose. Those guys could fling their bikes through corners at speeds that amazed me. But by lunch, it was no problem to reel them in. Even if a heavy bike can take curves fast, it still takes a lot of effort. At the end of the day, I was still ready for more riding. And I think it has to do with the low weight of our bikes. To me, the spec sheet is one thing. It'll tell me the top end horsepower and maybe the top speed. But there's a limit of how fast any partially sane rider will take a corner they've never seen before, and once you top 90-100 mph...what is it worth to go faster and lose your license? My GT clocked 139 mph per the Michigan State Police testing. A R1200RS is supposed to be able to reach about 145 mph. Do I care about 6 mph? When will I ever ride that fast? I'm far more interested in how the bike gives me a grin in day to day riding in the daily commute and some fun rides. Does it bring a grin to my face? Do I love the looks of the bike from whatever direction I come up on it? Do I look back to see what it looks like one last time as I walk away? I'm sure you have that feeling on your FJ-09s and Tracers. And I'd much rather have the reliability of a Yamaha than the new BMW or KTM. And if you love what you have...why spend thousand$$$$ to find out the new bike isn't as good as the one you had? Chris
  3. There's a little mental exercise I go through when considering buying a new bike. What improvements does it have over what I have now? Or in the case of the post by nevada72, what's the improvements the 1250 has over the 1200? Next, how much extra will that cost? So far, that has kept me from jumping from one bike to another and wasting a lot of money. The FJ-09/Tracer is a great bike. It's the standard by which every other bike in this category will be judged by; that's pretty cool. But...the marketing folks earn their living by convincing you that you just gotta have that new fancy update. Chris
  4. That's why when I can, I'll buy used. I picked up my current bike from a retired cardiologist who outfitted my bike with only the best mods to make it suitable for touring. There was about $3000 of accessories on it...and the bike was priced below Kelley Blue Book. Chris
  5. Yeah, OIS was mentioned. There are some ridiculously cheap GoPro knockoffs at Big5 and eBay that work very well from what I've read on other forums. It's a safer way to record video without taking a chance on ruining an expensive phone if you don't know if it has OIS, or not. Chris
  6. What would it cost to simply trade the FJ-09 in on a GT? You still won't have the longer swing arm by changing all those parts, so that'll cost you some $$$ too. Chris
  7. I'd really recommend against putting a phone on the handlebars of any bike. I frequent a lot of forums and I've read in several places where member's phone cameras died because of the vibration. They were all using the phone as a GPS, but the camera died. Chris
  8. I bought a Sena 10C several years ago at about this time of the year. I found a place selling Sena BT products at a discount. The 10C was about $10 more than the 20S at the time, so I bought it. I didn't plan to take videos, but figured I might as well take advantage of the opportunity. After buying the 10C, I found many people used theirs as a "dash" cam. The problem with that is that you wear it out. Not the internal electronics, but the power connector. I could hookup a USB cable to the bottom rear of the unit (it's the only one I know of that can be powered while using it), and I'd get all day recording. But the connection isn't made to take that kind of use and eventually it started going bad. I bought a Halocam M1 also and have found it to be great. Specs look like it is identical to the INNOVV K2, but at a fraction of the price. Like Paul, I had some issues with the first unit, but the customer service at Halocam was easy to deal with and replaced it at no cost to me. The nice part of this is it is "install and forget". You power on the bike and it starts up. Turn off the bike, and it shuts down. Video quality isn't perfect, but it is on par with early action cams, and definitely good enough to record an accident or road rage incident. One nice thing about it for recording riding videos is the point of view. I have mine mounted under the headlight (and under the luggage rack in the rear), and you really get the effect of taking a corner. A helmet mounted camera loses some of that effect because you tend to keep your head level. But if the bike is leaning over at 30 degrees, the video is recording the same. The difference is noticeable. I was able to get a warranty replacement for my Sena 10C and now have the Pro version. I like it, though I don't use it as a dash camera anymore. What I'll often do, is to start the video when I know that I'm getting to a place that will be fun. You can take snap shots while recording. I'll use those just as book marks to tell me to look for a single frame to save around that time. A nice benefit of a helmet mounted camera like that, is there are times when it isn't safe or practical to stop to take a picture. Here's two pictures that I wouldn't have taken without the Sena 10C. You can point out the distortions of the pictures, but I wouldn't have taken any picture without the Sena 10C. And this is better than no picture. There are a couple problems with recording riding videos and publishing them. One is space. I don't know what YouTube does now, but at one time the only way you could post a quality video, was by using up your "free" space. Perhaps it has changed now. I realized that it wouldn't take long, and you'd be paying monthly fees to keep your videos posted...and that wasn't worthwhile to me. The other thing, was the time. If you've never edited videos for public viewing, you have no idea of the hours you can suck up in getting a short video ready to publish. Chris
  9. daboo

    BMW F900XR

    I ride with Kawasaki C14 riders and they have a similar problem. It sounds great on the showroom floor. Just have a key fob somewhere nearby and the bike runs. But I've read of people who swap bikes and ride away. When they started, the key fobs were close enough that the bikes ran great. When they split up and stopped, the required key fob was no where near. The bikes were dead. Swell.... Chris
  10. daboo

    BMW F900XR

    When I first read this, I thought you were saying they got rid of the CAN-BUS. That alone would be worth it and a major selling point. Some people like all the gadgets. Like Ride Modes, Dynamic ESA (Electronic Supension Adjustment) and the like. Me...I like my motorcycles much simpler. I toggle through the display options on my F800GT and (don't laugh!) I get the average speed, average MPG, instantaneous MPG and temperature. That's it. But that's all I really care about. I've done some extensive test rides on both the R1200RS and RT. I didn't find the Dynamic ESA on them to be any better for handling than my rudimentary three-position electronic suspension adjustment. Sometimes the fancier electronic gadgets are just that...fancier. Not necessarily better. I do find it humorous that a selling point of the F800GT was that the gas tank is below the seat for lower CG. And on the F900XR, they put the gas tank up high again. Why is it a selling point in both cases? If you believe the marketing folks, they'll sell you anything. I personally like the belt drive on the F800GT. It's definitely a plus. At 49,000 miles, it still looks like new. I can come in from a rain soaked commute, or touring a 10 hour day, and not have to clean or lube a chain in a motel parking lot. I can understand the new XR not having a belt...it's the cheapest driveline solution and can take any amount of rear-wheel power you put to it. But a lot of members on the F800Riders forum are not enthralled with the F900XR because of the belt being dropped. I'm not a "BMW" man. I've owned three Suzuki's, two Hondas and now this BMW. I almost had a Yamaha. The cool thing I would think for you guys, is you have the standard by which all the other bikes are measured by. When anyone thinks of a bike in this category, yours is the one that everyone thinks of first. Chris
  11. daboo

    BMW F900XR

    As someone who test rode the FJ-09 and F800GT...and went with the F800GT...I just chuckle when I read about the "pathetic" engine. Especially after last summer when I had no problem keeping up with bikes putting out about 160 hp at the rear wheel over hundreds of twisty miles. But it isn't the engine the FJ-09 or Tracer GT has. That would be sweet. I'm looking forward to the comparative reviews. I think Yamaha did a great job with the FJ-09 and made it even better with the Tracer GT. BMW will have a high standard to try to beat. And the Tracer engine is superb. The fun part will be to see how the entire bike fares. As for the engine comparisons, that will be interesting to see how they compare. Hp is higher on the Tracer's engine, but torque is slightly higher on the BMW's. In real world riding, which works best? And the cost difference will be interesting to see. From what I've seen, dealers don't stock anything but fully optioned ($$$) models. As my parents used to do, this is "window shopping" for me. I'm short; my F800GT fits me like a glove. And it is paid for.
  12. I agree and think the total bike is important. There was a video on YouTube that I saw a couple years ago with a rider on a Kawasaki adventure bike, I think. About a 650, if I remember right. Just looking at the specs, he was totally outclassed. But he passed bike after bike that had far more power than he did and better specs. He just knew how to ride.
  13. Great write up; I really enjoyed reading it. Far better than a "professional" write up in a motorcycle magazine where they regurgitate the manufacturer's press release. I chuckled at this. I suspect if you lose respect for the bike, you will end up in a hospital at best. On the BMW F800GT forum, a member there today compared his S1000RR to a F800GT. And of course, the S1000RR comes out ahead. Gosh, what would anyone expect? The S1000RR was designed to compete in the Superbike World Championship and has only gotten better. (You bought a great bike!) The FJ-09 and F800GT are designed to a price point. The F-09 does a phenomenal job, but it is like comparing apples to oranges. I do find comments about the F800GT having lackluster performance amusing. Back in 2016, I tested both the FJ-09 and F800GT before buying the BMW. The BMW fit me like a glove (I'm short) and I didn't see me riding in stop-n-go Seattle rush hour traffic with the FJ-09's throttle. It seemed "snatchy" to me. It's just personal choices, and the Tracer GT is on my short list if I ever need to replace the F800GT. I do find this forum great; it's like "window shopping". Maybe someday... Back to performance. Soon after buying my GT, I took it up to Hurricane Ridge. For those not familiar with the area, you end up passing through a town called Sequim. It's known for it's radar traps. I was riding with a Ducati owner and saw two state patrol vehicles off on the side of the road. I glanced down at my speedometer thinking I was doing something like 60 in a 55...and saw I was doing 90 mph. The bike was so smooth at that speed that I had no idea I was going that fast. I'm just lucky they weren't interested in pulling us over that day. I think a lot of the impression the bike is lacking in performance is simply that nothing stands out when riding it fast. It just does what it does without any muss or fuss. The Michigan State Police tested the bike for their fleet and it clocked at 139 mph. It can't be that underpowered. But compared to the engine on the FJ-09/Tracer GT...yeah, it isn't as powerful. I did a lot of riding this summer with riders on bikes that are putting about 150 hp to the rear wheel. They rode faster than anyone I've been with before on some little traveled backroads in central Oregon. I had no problem keeping up, or even catching them when I slowed to look at the scenery. It just took dropping a gear or two and keeping the throttle above 5000 rpms. I came to a conclusion that there's a limit to how much hp you can use in corners and even how much acceleration you want to do on the straights. The excess is just great for marketing brochures and bragging rights. Back to your review. Again, I enjoyed it a lot. It is excellent. I think there are some S1000RR forums that will give you more details on the maintenance. You'll probably want to pick up a GS-911 or the new Motoscan tool. There are different models of the GS-911. You'll want to make sure if you buy one that it will connect to your RR. The new wi-fi version will work. Good luck on the new bike! Chris
  14. What's wrong with the brake lines that came with the bike? Chris
  15. Until recently, I've always had the dealer mount and balance my new tires. I had probably an ounce or so on the rim of stick on weights. I'm guessing on the amount, because I didn't look closely at the numbers on the weights when I took them off. My dealer raised his prices significantly and it pissed me off. Yeah, I can afford to pay what they charge, but it was the principle to me. So I bought the Motion Pro 08-0536 BeadPro Forged Steel Tire Bead Breaker and Lever Tool Set. It works. The next step though, was balancing the wheels. The options I saw were: Buy a static wheel balancer. I'm cheap though and wanted to avoid not only the cost, but the storage space it would take in my garage. Balance beads or something similar. Ride-on Nothing I ended up using balance beads. The tires I put on rode extremely smooth. I was a happy camper. That was in May. In August, I changed tires again. This time, I didn't put anything in the tires. The tires I put on ride extremely smooth. I'm still a happy camper. So...why did I "need" the stick on weights originally when the dealership was changing the tires? I have no clue. I suspect the balance beads spread out as they are supposed to...but weren't needed. There's discussion on other forums about tire and wheel balancing. Word back from the tire manufacturers are that the quality standards are so high nowadays that the tires don't need balancing. If balancing is needed, it is for the bike's wheel. My recommendation is to install the tire. If there's a "dot" on it, put the dot near the valve stem. If there's no dot, just install it. See how it rides. If you need balancing, then use either beads or Ride-On. Ride-On (and probably Slime) will work under the same principle as the beads do. The material shifts to balance the tire. If the tire gets a puncture, you have a chance to repair the leak with the Ride-On installed. I'd be a little leery of using it, if you don't put on many miles. I've used Slime in the past and it worked well. But then I rode it daily. By the time the tire was changed, the Slime had become tacky in the tread area of the tire. If I had let the bike sit for six months of the year...would it have become a tacky lump in the bottom of the tire? Ride-On says it will balance your tire. Does it stay liquid? Or does it become tacky over time like Slime? I don't know. The balance beads seem to be fine. The only downside is that if you get a puncture, you can't use something like Ride-On or Slime. I would think it would cause the beads to clump. Chris