Chris FJR

Today I took a look at the side stand on both my Tracer and my FJR and took pix. When looking straight down, over the footpeg, you can see the foot of theFJR stand sits quit a bit further outboard than does the foot on the Tracer. Both bikes rest at about the same angle when on their stands. But the Tracer obviously needs much less "leverage" to overtop the stand because of this difference. I don't think this is anything that could be fixed without a Yamaha redesign. The Tracer side stand foot needs to sit further outboard, but to do that, without changing the rest angle of the bike, would mean a longer stand too. Then with all those changes there would be issues involving where the new stand would rest when it's retracted. I never thought this was an issue I should be looking for when buying a bike that's billed as a sport/TOURING bike. And much as I love the Tracer, this looks to be an issue that might only be solvable for me by getting a different bike. Maybe the new Honda NT 1100 if they bring that over from Europe next year. Or the new Triumph Tiger 1200. That's a shame. But I'll know now, the first thing I check for on a demo is to put the bike on the side stand and see if I can leverage the rear tire off the ground

Yeah, I have no problem with the bike once were underway. My wife just cannot swing her leg over the top box, and there’s no way to change that. I already have a foot extender on the bottom of the side stand but all that does is make it slightly more likely to tip over in the other direction. As I’ve commented before, I think the geometry of the stand is just inadequate. In 25 years of riding two up, I’ve never had a bike that was capable of tipping over on the side stand side, come hell or high water.

I am sort of thinking that too, the geometry is just wrong. The foot of that side stand needs to be located further out board for more stability. Not a very fixable situation.

I've got a problem with this too, which I just discovered. My wife rode with me for first time, with full luggage. I dialed in full preload, (24 clicks), but still had a problem getting the side stand to deploy without having to tilt bike dangerously to the right. This seems way wrong. In addition, we're older. She's not tall and a bit heavy. She can't swing a leg over the topcase with me on the bike, so we tried her getting on the bike first without me on it, then scooting to the back seat and I then awkwardly push my foot over the seat and get on. We used to sometimes use this method on my FJR and it worked well. Very stable. HOWEVER, on the Tracer the stability of the bike is extremely precarious when on the side stand IMO. And, in fact, the Tracer fell over at a gas stop with her on it !!! I was getting off. She was balancing on the rear seat. Somehow weight shifted a bit while I was getting off and pulling my foot across the seat. And the Tracer did something I don't think any bike I've had in decades could have done... it "over-topped" the side stand and fell over on the side stand side of the bike. Obviously, my wife freaked out, as did I. For the rest of our trip, our friends helped us stabilize the Tracer each time my wife got on and off. Anyone else experienced this problem?

Little late with a reply here, but here goes. I find the Tracer very abrupt too. To me, it feels like the old turbos on cars. Smooth up to a certain RPM. Then it "explodes" with acceleration. Even in B mode. I found a little of this on my Gen 2 , FJR. I put on a G2 Throttle Tamer and it helped a lot. Still have the FJR. Compared to the Tracer, the FJR feels totally linear, like a rheostat, but like someone else here said, that could have a lot to do with weight and inertia stuff. I did the same on the Tracer. It does help a little, but it's still jerky. Easy fix though, so I'd recommend it, (see below). BTW, I searched for info on the Tracer mapping to find if the modes actually affect horsepower. Some mapping software just dials back gross HP, and some do a more sophisticated remapping. Anyone know which method the Tracer uses? I've tried measuring 0-60 times in A and B and feel there's little measurable difference. G2 Ergonomics | Motorcycle Throttles and Handguards Shop G2 Throttles at our official online store. Quick Turn, Throttle Tamer...

Kilo 3: No, I haven't had my GT flashed. I tried riding in B mode to ameliorate the abrupt response, but felt I was losing out on overall power with that. So now I use Std. with the Throttle Tamer.

12 years ago I switched from a BMW K100RS to an FJR. I thought the throttle a little abrupt and put on a G2 Throttle Tamer, and I became perfect. Felt like a rheostat. Totally linear. With my new Tracer GT I felt it was even worse. Like an old fashion turbo which hits a certain RPM and just "explodes" in acceleration. Put on a G2 Throttle Tamer and it helped. It's still way worse than my FJR, put it was an improvement. A $75 fix. Throttle Tamer for Dirt and Street Bikes | The Fix for Over-responsive Throttles Street and Dirt throttle tamers by G2 Ergonomics are specificaly designed... If you have heated grips, you'll have to be careful removing the old grip, but not a big deal.

Thanks for the additional info, Simon1963. As I said, I won't be doing this until my warranty is up in a few months, but I will repost with my results and email you.

I'm a new Tracer GT owner, (also an FJR owner), considering a sprocket change as well to cruise 75mph at a little lower RPM. So I'm finding this discussion interesting. I came across this article in a Cycle World online site about changing to 17f x 43r. They claim this change accomplishes a lower cruise RPM and needs no change of chain size. It's what I'm considering when my warranty ends in a couple months, (just to be safe). Long-Term Tracer 900 GT Update Nick Ienatsch prepares his long-term 2019 Yamaha Tracer 900 GT to hit the...