ogri Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 [video src=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tc4DldlISKA] STUFF EVERYTHING - I'VE ALWAYS GOT MY BIKE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member wessie Posted October 21, 2015 Premium Member Share Posted October 21, 2015 You seem to have an unhealthy curiosity, @ogri This signature is left blank as the poster writes enough pretentious bollocks as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogri Posted October 21, 2015 Author Share Posted October 21, 2015 You seem to have an unhealthy curiosity, @ogri If I can learn from others, even from their misfortunes, that's good with me. STUFF EVERYTHING - I'VE ALWAYS GOT MY BIKE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member wessie Posted October 21, 2015 Premium Member Share Posted October 21, 2015 I couldn't see the surface properly, but on that type of road there are a number of things that could cause that. First is debris in the road - drift a little off the main line and you can hit gravillons as the French call them. Also in France, on hot days in the Vosges, we discovered the bitumen used to seal the cracks in the road can molten once it goes over 25C. Even a 30 tonne lump of Milwaukee pig iron had a front wheel slide on that stuff. Just like the other crash, the root cause was probably rider error from poor forward planning. This signature is left blank as the poster writes enough pretentious bollocks as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobaintstoppin Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 This looks to me like he lost traction on the front wheel. Video shows they weren't going fast (unlike on the other video thread). Must have been a slippery spot on the pavement.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogri Posted October 21, 2015 Author Share Posted October 21, 2015 I couldn't see the surface properly, but on that type of road there are a number of things that could cause that. First is debris in the road - drift a little off the main line and you can hit gravillons as the French call them. Also in France, on hot days in the Vosges, we discovered the bitumen used to seal the cracks in the road can molten once it goes over 25C. Even a 30 tonne lump of Milwaukee pig iron had a front wheel slide on that stuff. Just like the other crash, the root cause was probably rider error from poor forward planning. The road surface didn't look great from the video, but who knows. The only time I've had my front end go out that fast was on gravillons in a corner riding a Suzuki Marauder. STUFF EVERYTHING - I'VE ALWAYS GOT MY BIKE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member builderbob Posted October 21, 2015 Premium Member Share Posted October 21, 2015 I couldn't see the surface properly, but on that type of road there are a number of things that could cause that. First is debris in the road - drift a little off the main line and you can hit gravillons as the French call them. That's my guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dv8ght Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Did you ease off the throttle just before it went down? I have realized mid corner that I was running wide and inadvertently closed the throttle before. Luckily, for me, I managed to muscle the bike upright in the process. Closing the throttle, will slow the bike, but cause it to drop deeper into the lean. Combine that with countersteering To get back on your desired line, and a low side is threatening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vespadaddy Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Did you ease off the throttle just before it went down? I have realized mid corner that I was running wide and inadvertently closed the throttle before. Luckily, for me, I managed to muscle the bike upright in the process. Closing the throttle, will slow the bike, but cause it to drop deeper into the lean. Combine that with countersteering To get back on your desired line, and a low side is threatening. I'm not sure I agree with your assessment that chopping the throttle mid turn will cause the bike to 'drop deeper into the lean'. Rather, chopping the throttle shifts more weight onto the front wheel. When the front is near the limit of traction, and you shift a bunch of weight onto it, it may let go, and slide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dv8ght Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 I looked up what you said, and you're correct. I must have overloaded the front tire. Anytime it has happened to me, the bike has felt like it dropped farther into the lean. I have stood it up some, come back on the throttle a fraction (2002 FZ1 has a tightly spaced throttle) and leaned it back over. When I have accidentally closed the throttle, my bike feels like it's falling over. Reacting to my gut is what I trust when it's gone to sh@t, it's too late to think it through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxam Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 Amazing how the guy on the bicycle just rides right past - didn't even ask if he was ok! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rambodog Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Gnarly low side man! How's that knee feeling? Is the bike ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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