quaxum

4 hours ago, flyfifer said:

I have copied this across from the FJ seat thread and updated it.

johnmark101 cannot get his new Sargent pillion seat to fit, Tracer 900GT.

johnmark101 is not happy with the Sargent rider's seat fit, Tracer 900GT.

3sum thought the Sargent rider's seat fit was fine, Tracer 900 GT.

3sum persevered with the Sargent pillion seat and is able to fit it, Tracer 900GT.

Sargent produced their own Pan for the bike identified as an FJ.

stgolfer has a Sargent seat (the first off) and the seat still slopes, Tracer 900 not GT.

R.C. has a seat on order.

Quaxum posted pics showing a SARGENT, Tracer 900 (including GT) seat PAN and a SARGENT FJ seat pan and they are the , same moulding.

Whistler has received his Sargent seat and commented about difficult pillion seat fit, poor rider seat fit in Low position but "better" in the High position. Whistler posted pics which Def show the Sargent has a flatter rider seat. Quote from Whistler -" in my opinion only, is made for the High position.  The nose is also tapered on the sides, allowing my feet to easily touch the ground, even though the seat's in the High setting".

Quaxum posted pics showing a 900GT with what he believes is a Sargent FJ09 seat fitted. This reaffirms that the seat Pans are interchangeable. Posters opinion the fit looks better than the new Sargent seat.

Thanks for the summary!

13 minutes ago, betoney said:

That actually looks like it fits correctly and looks very nice on the bike.  Much closer to the usual Sargent quality fit and finish.

He sent his original seat to sargent to have it done up. Therefore its using the original seat pan

Also, dk if anyone noticed. this seems to be their ori version of the seat. It looks like its better optimized for the GT. dk why they changed the design. Anyone can talk to sargent about it?

Pic is not mine. Saw it on Tracer Gt Thread on ADVrider i think. Credits to the owner.

33 minutes ago, whistler said:

Received my Sargent seat today and wanted to post a couple of pics.  Been following the seat threads for the GT and wasn't feeling too warm and fuzzy about the Sargent's arrival, but now that it's installed, it just might be okay.  Will ride it tomorrow and post up my seat-of-the-pants comments afterward.

First and foremost, I don't believe the Sargent was designed for installing in the OEM Low position.  Have no idea why this is, but that's just my opinion. There's excessive gap at the nose of the seat, as if the pan's length is just too short - period.  The fit is definitely not up to the standards that I've experienced with all my previous Sargents on previous bikes.  Again, just my opinion.  The below 2 pics are of the rider seat in the Low position.

 

 

Then, I moved the adjustment bracket to the High position, and the result was a much better fit i.e., no gap between seat nose and tank.

 

 

 

Then I installed the pillion seat, the fit of which is VERY snug.  It took some mild profanities to get it done, but it did finally fit.   Just like the rider's seat, the pillion is a bit wider and slightly flatter than the OEM's contour.  Seems like the bearing surface is better configured.  Here's a pic... 

 

 

Took 2 pics from the side to hopefully show how the nose of the Sargent is not swept up like the OEM seat, and also to show how the seat has been flattened, or dished out a bit, at its rear.  This is a noticeable difference from the OEM's contour, which inclines upward at the rear of the seat.  Definitely explains why I and many others constantly feel a forward decline into the upswept nose of the OEM seat, which crunches the jewels just a bit too much.  You can see how the Sargent's nose is fairly level at the nose and slightly dished at the rear from the below pics.

 

 

 

Bottom line . . . this seat, at least on my GT, and in my opinion only, is made for the High position.  The nose is also tapered on the sides, allowing my feet to easily touch the ground, even though the seat's in the High setting.  Will see how it all feels on the road tomorrow and report back.  We shall see...

 

 

Thank you! Appreciate it! Waiting for your detailed ride review! 

With regards to the pan, we can see the differences below.

The top pic is for the older tracer aka FJ series. The bottom is for the latest Tracer 900s.

Even the part numbers are the same. The pictures should help.

Thank You @3sum for all the pictures. I'm seriously considering the sargent seats in a pair.

i'm have the 20" as well. didn't notice the whistle. i'm about 5'8

7 hours ago, wordsmith said:

(1)  I've plenty of past very positive experience with BAGSTER seats on Gen 1 Tracers.

(2)  dazzler24 may chip-in here as he is currently running his new BAGSTER seat.

(3)  my own new BAGSTER seat for my 2019 GT is currently being made.   Expected in about 5 weeks - and will then report.

Thanks! will be waiting for your review!

Thanks for the link! So has anyone got the Bagster seats yet? Or any previous expierence with it? 

Will they be addressing the sloping issue though? Have always been a big fan of their seats from my previous bike. Really a great improvement.

4 hours ago, johnmark101 said:

Been a long time coming.  Pre ordered mine September 3rd.  Had good luck with their seats on my VFR and Ninja 1000.

Yea had good experience with them on my previous bike as well let us know what u think once its here?

Sargent just released their iteration for the GT seats

Thoughts?

its the stock dunlop 222s. changed my tyres to the T31. eliminated the issue. get them changed!

no changes.

i think they slapped on a niken inspired exhaust tho.

yea i did it myself. but it wasn't a good job. but it keeps the scuffs out. i wrapped it with oraguard paint protection sheet.

i do not have the wobble but the bike weaves at speeds above 200km/h

yes they fit. no holes required. just use a universal monokey rack.

On 8/15/2019 at 6:03 PM, StealthAu said:

Do you guys get much movement in your madstad screens? 

not moving even up to 200km/h. awesome screens!

23 minutes ago, betoney said:

I cant say 100% for sure but they sure LOOK exactly like the adventure pegs sold in Europe.  A lot of Yamaha models share some common parts.

Ah yes. I'm having the wild idea of putting some pivot pegs to the tracer. but i'm wondering if it'll fit.

Does the tenere pegs fit our bikes? 

any pictures of the palmer?

Is the power on the gear 6 the same as the power on your first gens? i've heard the euro 4s are really restricted.

Heard there are no barend weights therefore the numbing is caused by the vibrations from the bars.

Gripbuddies helps to a certain extent.

Aukey CC-T8 dual port charger but only use any 1 port at a time. up to 1.5A max for 1 port. therefore does not blow the fuse. awesome little device. fast charges my note 8 & s7 (which i double as a GPS).

Madstad for me works great without buffeting! Top quality screen!
5"7. 32" inseam

On 6/12/2019 at 3:35 AM, betoney said:

Have you already used the switched aux plugs behind the screen?  No sense running fog light wiring to the back of the bike. 

no but the power comes from the battery. therefore i was thinking of limiting the wires to the middle part of the bike. are there any source that i can tap? 

got a pic of the connection under the seat? i'm looking to route foglight wires to somewhere there is ignition source