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Hey guys!

Curious to hear about your experiences on this one.

Has anyone taken an advanced rider course before?  The Police Officer type.

I am thinking of registering for this type of training soon.

I am experienced but have never done pylon style courses.

Are people dropping bikes often at these types of training events?

Should I be fitting my bike with some crash bars? If so, what is recommended ?

TIA

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Years ago I took the FAST school at Shannonville. A great investment, made me a much better rider on the street. You have the option of taking your own bike or using one of theirs. 

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No question, Advanced Rider Courses will make you a better rider, but you should be prepared to drop your bike during the class. You can sometimes rent a bike and use theirs, but your skills will improve more if you are riding your own bike. 

Certainly add protective gear to protect the bike in the event of a fall. If you really don't like the protection, you can remove the gear after the class.

As one instructor told me, if you aren't falling, you aren't learning......

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Available classes are severely limited here in the midwest US, so I slurp up whatever I can.

The Total Control Riding courses are fantastic and will make you a better, safer, faster rider -- if you apply and practice what you learn. I haven't seen a drop in these, but they can happen.

I've also lucked into a great dual-sporting class that was in Indiana, the Tom Asher Adventure Riding Academy, and it was transformational. Drops are part of the game in dual-sport riding, but there honestly weren't very many for as hard as we were pushing the limits.

I'll be doing my first track day on my FJ-09 this summer as well. It's a track day organized first and foremost for safety, so we don't really expect any crashing.

 

So far, I haven't been interested in the "police" style courses, but in any training class, there is a significant risk of a drop, so I would absolutely make sure I had crash bars, etc. so that the bike could continue after a low-speed fall.

The main benefit is more that you can put one worry out of your mind and focus on the class.

For that matter, I think crash bars and hand control protection of some sort (even bar ends are helpful) are nearly mandatory for any traveling bike; even a stupid hotel parking lot knockover far from home could take out the radiator or an engine case far too easily on the FJ/Tracer. 

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I am an Instructor with Team-Oregon.org. Been teaching for 17 years. We offer several advanced classes in addition to the beginner and intermediate classes all throughout the state of Oregon. 

https://team-oregon.org

The advanced course can be fond here.

https://team-oregon.org/training-courses/additional-training/

They are a real hoot!

 

 

 

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Hi.

 

If you are in Hamilton, Lanarkshire, UK I recomend  the IAM (Institute of Advanced Motorcycalists) who provide training to Advanced Civilian level. 

Glasgow North meet weekly in Springburn. Glasgow South in East Kilbride.

I never dropped my bike during the course.

They have Slow Mo days once a year which is manovering about cones. I have seen the odd bike dropped there.

Regards.

Stuart.

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On 4/9/2024 at 8:26 PM, 2linby said:

I am an Instructor with Team-Oregon.org. Been teaching for 17 years. We offer several advanced classes in addition to the beginner and intermediate classes all throughout the state of Oregon. 

https://team-oregon.org

The advanced course can be fond here.

https://team-oregon.org/training-courses/additional-training/

They are a real hoot!

That looks amazing, but that's part of the problem -- the VAST majority of available training opportunities in North America are in the US West coast states.

I think the OP is in Hamilton, ON. 

That said... badass rider and trainer extraordinaire Clinton Smout offers some excellent dual-sport classes in Ontario, through his SMART Adventure Programs. They're held at the Horsehoe Resort, just outside Barrie, ON, so quite close to the OP.

https://www.smartadventures.ca/

You can use their bikes, too, and overall learning off-road riding skills makes an immediate and massive difference in your street riding chops. Even if you're not all that interested in dirt riding, it's well worth consideration. 

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