i'm just wondering if anyone knows if the gearing i different between them
at 65 i'm around 4500
at 80 i'm at 5500rpm
 
i see all the fzs doing easy power wheelies
 
i decided to try and can barely get the front wheel to come off the ground in 1st

I'm assuming this is with the TCS turned off?
 
Mine comes up easily in 1st when hard on the throttle and especially when actually trying to wheelie, even in standard mode.

Im not sure about transmission gear ratios between the 2 bikes. I changed the stock countershaft sprocket (16T) to a 15T, and like it much better. It still pulls forever in each gear, it just revs up a little quicker.

A mode with TCS off.. front wheel comes up easily in 1st under hard acceleration. Probable would in 2nd if you were someone that's good at wheelies.

looks the same  i owned both . i thought it felt different , must be the weight diff . but at only 500 miles , the fj will lift the front . without much problem .at 250lb rider , and now the ecm if off to 2 wheel dyno 
 
 
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OP didn't turn TCS off. Case closed.

Turn TCS off. STD MODE. 1st gear 7000rpm. Snap throttle 1/3 to 1/2 open and she comes right up. Don't forget to cover the rear brake!

Thanks and I got it the name honest.Had a cx500 rat bike that I loved thrashing around the mountains on. Great fun until the throttle linkage on the carbs bind up and you end up taking a 30mph corner at 70mph.

i'm just wondering if anyone knows if the gearing i different between them at 65 i'm around 4500
at 80 i'm at 5500rpm
 
i see all the fzs doing easy power wheelies
 
i decided to try and can barely get the front wheel to come off the ground in 1st

 
 
Just gonna throw my 2 cents in , but 2nd gear with tcs off at about 4000 to 5000 rpm , and clutch wheelie it up. It's so much easier to manage and more consistent by clutch wheeling than power wheeling

i had tcm off
 
was able to get it up after a few attempts
not what i would call effortless by any means
 
guess ill have to practice more
 
 

i had tcm off 
was able to get it up after a few attempts
not what i would call effortless by any means
 
guess ill have to practice more
 

 
You're probably not at the right engine speed for the torque needed.
 
Is this your first attempt at wheelies?

I'm 6'1" and weigh 230+- Lbs and it comes right up....

  I have no trouble getting mine up either but sometimes I can't pee as far as I used to.

  I have no trouble getting mine up either but sometimes I can't pee as far as I used to.

...here we go... Bob's wandering the halls again, terrorizing the nurses... 8D

I probably should quit watching them old Buddy Hackett videos on you tube