Cruizin Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Guys, Elka suspensions would like to know if you would be interested in ordering a rear shock thru us, from them. Before they start dumping $$ into R&D into the FJ-09, they would like to know what the demand is. Please take a minute and participate in this poll. If you don't already know, Elka is the premiere Suspension Factory in North America and many people (including myself) prefer them over Penske for not only their superior suspension products, but their outstanding customer service and warranty. We are trying to see if there is enough demand, and are looking at two different shocks. An economical Preload and Rebound adjustable rear shock in the $600 range Or A fully adjustable, multi reservoir rear shock in the $1,300 range. Yamaha FZ-10 Forum Yamaha FZ-07 Forum Yamaha Ténéré 700 Forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member ULEWZ Posted January 16, 2015 Premium Member Share Posted January 16, 2015 I am looking for a shock with compression, rebound, preload, and remote reservoir. I don't need high speed compression settings. Not sure which one above qualifies. A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul. George Bernard Shaw (1856-1950) Bikes: 2015 FJ-09, Seat Concepts seat cover and foam, Cal Sci medium screen, rim stripes, factory heated grips, Cortech Dryver tank bag ring, Modified stock exhaust, FlashTune with Graves fuel map, Cree driving lights, Aux power socket. 2012 Street Triple type R (Wifes) 2007 FJR1300 (Sold!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest eatpasta Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 I paid $800 for my two-way Elka for the 1150 so I highly doubt their rear for this bike would be more than that unless it's a three way.... IMHO once you get the shock dialed in, you're not going to be changing it much, somewhat eliminating a need for a ultra-fancy shock. After all, this isnt a track bike - but a preload adjuster would be key for adding/subtracting loads all the time. Plus its really nice to be able to adjust the preload on the fly which I do quite a lot when I can depending on the day/terrain/pancake intake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfjniner Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 So far I have been impressed with the stock shocks. Much better than the 14 FZ-09's. My last ride was some what spirited and the roads were some what irregular and I didn't feel any stepping out or frame wobbling, etc. I will go until the rear shock is wasted before I start looking into an aftermarket. As is with most factory suspension from Japan, if you are under 170 pounds, the suspension will work as designed. If you are above 170, you will experience less than satisfactory results. And if you are in the 220 range, the suspension will be wasted in 15-24,000 miles and you would do best to get a good suspension right off the bat. ULEWZ may already be ready for a different shock as he indicated above. Ken, Candy Ass L.D.R. Sleeps 8 hours (2)2005 FJR1300abs: 230,000 m 2015 FJ-09: 114,000 m (Replaced engine at 106K) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deersSlayer Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Their web page lists "new lower pricing": Stage 4 (rebound, low speed compression, high speed compression, hydraulic preload) for only $995. Is that in Cdn$ or US$, I don't know. If it's in Cdn then that's about US$850. Also, I'm seeing this in the FJ-09 forum. But you're talking about the FZ-07 Confused, I'll wait until the price & bike model is cleared up before I vote. FJ-09, 690 Enduro R. Back Roads. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruizin Posted January 16, 2015 Author Share Posted January 16, 2015 That was clearly just a mistype on my part. yes, for an FJ-09. Sorry to confuse you. Also, that price you are quoting is not for an FJ-09. Different shock, different application. Their web page lists "new lower pricing": Stage 4 (rebound, low speed compression, high speed compression, hydraulic preload) for only $995. Is that in Cdn$ or US$, I don't know. If it's in Cdn then that's about US$850. Also, I'm seeing this in the FJ-09 forum. But you're talking about the FZ-07 Confused, I'll wait until the price & bike model is cleared up before I vote. Yamaha FZ-10 Forum Yamaha FZ-07 Forum Yamaha Ténéré 700 Forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruizin Posted January 16, 2015 Author Share Posted January 16, 2015 We are talking Stage 5 on this new shock. They are slowly weeding out their Stage four lineup, old technology. Yamaha FZ-10 Forum Yamaha FZ-07 Forum Yamaha Ténéré 700 Forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deersSlayer Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 We are talking Stage 5 on this new shock. They are slowly weeding out their Stage four lineup, old technology. If I get an Elka shock, I would definitely want a Stage 5. But even though I now have my FJ-09 in my garage, I won't get to ride it until end of March or April. I may be like redfjniner and not need a new shock for a couple/few years. FJ-09, 690 Enduro R. Back Roads. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vespadaddy Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 What's the difference between stage 4 and stage 5? Even after perusing the Elka website, I'm not sure. I didn't see stage 5 mentioned at all. Given that this isn't a racebike, I think my suspension dollars are a it too precious for a top-end shock. FWIW, I would probably look for something in the 5-6 hundred dollar range, including used and rebuilt. Penske, Ohlins, Elka, maybe even WP. But not at $1300. Plus, I couldn't justify spending over $1,000 without also upgrading the forks internals. Boom. There goes another $1,000 or so. That would probably make for a sweet handling FJ-09 though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruizin Posted January 17, 2015 Author Share Posted January 17, 2015 Stage 5 is all new technology and I'm told that it is gonna be killer. I'll be getting the upper model for my bike. I like to switch settings for around town, and then different settings for high speed and twisties. The $600 Elka will be night and day better than stock. Yamaha FZ-10 Forum Yamaha FZ-07 Forum Yamaha Ténéré 700 Forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papadage Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Not having taken a real ride in the twisties yet, it's hard to tell, but at 165#, I am in the weight range in which the stock shock works rather well, and it is night and day better than the one in my Ninja 650. I would probably get the less expensive option, or spend a bit more if it could be adjusted without a tool, like the one in the '14 Ninja 1000. It would be nice to load up, and just click to a different pre-load for touring, and then adjust again quickly once the bike is unloaded at a motel or campsite for unladen local spirited riding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FigJam-OhNine Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Like a few others, a remote pre-load adjuster (like the Ninja 1000) would be the "killer app" that would sell a shock to those who are within the goldilocks weight range for stock Jalanese suspension. I'm 210lbs, so to be clear, I am NOT in that range Not sure what color Elka will make these in. Red owners probably want a red shock, but grey owners may not. I like to keep things stealth (although I'm kinda diggin the brass forks). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elka Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Hello Folks, My name is John and I work for Elka Suspension and have been working with Cruizin to try and coordinate this project to develop a shock for the FJ-09. Considering the enormous demand we had to develop a shock for the FZ-9, we felt it was best to develop both at the same time considering they are essentially the same bike....similar to what Yamaha did with the FZ-8 and the Phaser. I will try and answer as many questions as I can so I can clarify alot of the price and product discrepancies. Stage 4 vs Stage 5... The Stage 4 product is the more common product that we currently use for the Motorcycle market at this time. The Stage 4 offer hi/lo speed compression, rebound, and manual preload adjustability and retails for $799. For an extra $200, you can add a hydraulic preload adjuster if applicable. The body diameter on the Stage 4 is 46mm, and we use an aluminum body with hard anodized components which are red in color. Stage 5- The new Stage 5 technology offers all the same features as the stage 4 in terms of adjustment...hi/lo speed compression, rebound, and preload, however we are using a smaller diameter shock body (36mm), and the compression cartridge has a much higher flow which allows us to completely segregate the compression from rebound....unlike the Stage 4. The Stage 4 technology does not allow us to completely segregate compression from rebound because of the design of the compression cartridge. Although it works well, more advanced riders can feel a slight change in compression when adjusting the rebound. As for the FJ-9 shock development, management is slowly eliminating the Stage 4 development to make way for the Stage 5 technology, however for this particular bike, we will be looking to develop both a fully adjustable Stage 5 shock, AS WELL as a more basic and economical Stage 2 shock, with preload and rebound only. As for offering a hydraulic preload adjustment, we have yet to do any development for a hydraulic preload adjuster for our 36mm aluminum shock bodies, therefore we may only be offering a manual adjustable preload shock....but it is still TBD. The Stage 5 platform is using gun metal grey components for the majority of the product, with red anodized accent pieces...a bit of a different look. Price point for the Stage 2 product will be in the $599-$699 range and Stage 5 will be $1299. When development is complete, I will most probably be organising a group buy with available discounts for a limited time with Cruizin, and I will also be touching base with this forum once we get the bike in here for development and to keep you all up to date with the progress. If you have any other questions, please feel free to ask. I will answer as promptly as possible. Regards, John Ilkiw Elka Suspension Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deersSlayer Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 John, are those Stage 2 and Stage 5 prices in $Cdn? (I live in Canada.) Thanks for following up with this in the FJ-09 forum, especially the clarification of stage 4 vs stage 5. FJ-09, 690 Enduro R. Back Roads. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elka Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 The prices listed are in CDN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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