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Will post results when we get some rainfall 👍

Givi Rm2159kit to mount the Givi Rm02 splash guard $160.43 shipped from Motostorm.it As mentioned previously I've found the T9GT to sling everything on the road all over the rear end of the bike, it's frustrating how much crap covers the bike after a wet ride. Easy install: assemble the guard to the bracket before mounting, sprayed some ACF-50 on the bracket since it is painted metal. Remove stock axle nut, washer, and axle block. Install assembled guard with included alignment plate, replace stock washer and nut, torque to spec. Givi's mount is a bit longer than the stock axle block from the chain tension adjuster to the axle hole, so you'll have to loosen the left side stock axle block to align the rear wheel. Thought about buying the Pyramid Plastics guard, but that's $251.49 shipped. Motostorm.it support has always been great to me too.

PSA to the new T9GT owners cornering ABS is off by default. Bike is set to BC1 (standard ABS) from dealer, need to turn on BC2 to test. I haven't tracked the bike, but in my testing on twisty roads in Appalachia, BC2 (cornering ABS) works well! You know how when you're hard in a corner and brake the bike tries to stand itself up? Cornering ABS solves that, it manages power and slide for you so you stay leaned. The confidence boost is worth it alone, and it is not obtrusive at all. I like it, and for me it's valuable for those narrow roads with curves and the oncoming traffic doesn't even try to stay in their lane so you have to brake mid corner to avoid getting hit .

I wear an XL RPHA 70 ST and it fits no problem.

Looks good. Don't toss the stock tail fender, this bike kicks up so much crap you may decide the tail tidy isn't worth it and want to put it back on. It absolutely coats my topcase in crap. 30L is OEM, it's gotta be the angle the pictures are taken. They are pretty streamlined in person.

Wow, good call on suggesting looking up the '17 MT09 with the OE splash guard, 150Nm: That being said, it looks like all the torque values for MT09s are 146Nm to 150Nm depending on model year. I just checked my '15 FJ09 manual and it also recommends 150Nm; though I only ever torqued it to 130-ish Nm. Oddly enough the MT10 which puts out more horsepower calls for 137Nm. Being a new swingarm and all that on the T9GT, I'll torque to manual spec and keep an eye on it. As for the chain slack instructions, it looks like the instructions for all of their splash guards for CP3 motorcycles says 15-20mm. So they probably just didn't update as the swingarms of Tracers got longer; I'll stick with manual recommendation. Thanks!

Hey guys, When aftermarket parts dictate torque specs on reused OEM nuts & bolts that differ from the manual specs, which do you generally go with? In my case the instructions are stating to retighten the rear axle nut to 146Nm... against the manual's 105Nm. I know from experience when reusing bolts & nuts to a go a bit lighter than the manual, especially rear sprocket nuts seems to strip easily if you reuse them and try to tighten to factory spec. But for this, a 40Nm torque increase for a splashguard seems high, I'd be scared of the rear wheel seizing. On another note, their chain slack spec of 15-20mm in the instructions also seems dangeoursly tight; manual calls for 45-50mm. Thanks for any input.

The timing of this thread is amazing, I was just cleaning off the bottom of my Shad topcase thinking "The T9GT fender seems to be less effective than the FJ09". Seriously, I never had gunk on my topcase with the FJ09 but it seems like the T9GT can't keep its rear clean, even crap gets ontop of the license plate holder. Weird. Ordered a rear hugger.

Vcyclenut has had one out for a while. But yes, I agree that there isn't a need for one the bike is super smooth as-is. Though it does look like there are some gains to be had with a flash + full exhaust change: Dropping $1500+ on a system then another $250 on the tune for is a lot for a bike that doesn't have any noticeable deadspot on stock map. All of the tested exausts are high-mount too I believe, losing the stock "hidden" exhaust look. Though the Arrow decatted version is $1,000 and looks pretty.... hmm.

D'OH!!! I thought: Meant you were were looking at buying either the 2018 generation Tracer (MY 2018-2020) or the new Tracer "9" models. My brain 😵; embarrassing. Sorry you had to read my novella of a reply. You definitely get what you pay for with these bikes, though. Krusty's reply is spot-on: only you can figure out what can live with or without. I personally think the GT upgrades are worth it, adding cruise control later is more time and money than just having it to begin with.

A lot of people on this forum seem to tunnel vision on the new electronic suspension of the T9GT and make that the only defining difference factor when buying a T9GT vs Tracer 900 GT used/new old stock. They sleep on the peak torque of the new engine coming online 1500RPM earlier in the rev range which is huge; after 3000mi riding the bike, this is the most noticeable difference. The seat on the GT is great, I'm not the only one of the forum who has mentioned that; the passenger seat is also upgraded if that matters to you. That'll save you a Corbin or Mustang purchase in the future. You're in a market (UK) where you can pick up the base Tracer 9 and save some money if you don't want the semi-active suspension. I believe that model still comes with cruise control; and that would've been the route I took if that were available in the US since I already had my own panniers and aftermarket heated grips tend to be better than OEM in many cases. As to how good the semi-active suspension is, yeah it's good. Damping being adjusted by a computer a thousand times a second is sweet when you're on crap roads. I think a testament to how good it is, is the lack of comments on it from people who own it on this forum. We'd all be up in arms if it sucked, but it doesn't. It's like 90% of my ohlins setup from my 2015 FJ09 on the aggressive twisties, but infinitely better at everything else especially on subpar roads.

There are some others: Pyramid UK R-Gaza crash-bar skid plate combo

Increased peak HP in the new engine isn't noticable in daily riding but peak torque being more and coming online 1500RPM earlier in the rev range is VERY noticeable around town esp with a passenger and/or luggage. Also, the new Tracer 9s have a revised subframe with higher rated payload capacity which is worth considering between the two generations when making a purchase.

Preload is fully adjustable with tools, it's rebound that is electronic and only two settings. I do agree having a 3rd setting would be nice and a 4th would be ideal. Currently having only stiff or soft isn't great, and stiff is stiff, like intermediate track-day stiff... and soft is too soft anything that isn't Michigan roads. There should be from soft to stiff: bad road (Michigan), normal road (maintained city/interstate), stiff road (properly graded curvy/back roads), and track mode, as the 4 preload options. However, and I say this with the utmost praise at a $14k bike: It is the best compromise for a suspension system from the factory in my opinion. Only things I find myself wishing for on the bike is illuminated/backlit switch gears and a dash that can tilt.

Glad you're ok Betoney, that's what's important. The asking prices of the of the "new old stock" units of '19-'20 were crazy when I was shopping after I totalled my '15. This was in large why I got the 21 T9GT; that and not many parts from my '15 fit on the '19-'20 models. I drove roughly 4-hours each way to get my T9GT for $1,000 off MSRP. On the plus side the insurance payout should be high due to used vehicle prices inflating the market value, take it and shop around 🤑 Cheers,

It has remote preload adjustability on rear shock and what looks like a tool-less preload dial on front fork in the pictures. We'll have to wait and see if it has damping adjustment with tools on release.

Not that I'm unhappy with the T9GT but that NT1100 is shaping up really well... damn.

Definitely get the 2 wheel dyno works ECU flash, as far as I'm concerned it is a requirement for 2015-17 FJs/Tracers. I weigh 175lbs and am 5'10" and the stock front forks were enough for me after adjusting sag properly. Best "do it all" windshield for my height was the Puig touring screen. Above 95F and I'd throw a shorter screen on, they all felt the same to me just buy whatever you like. The OEM heated grips integrate with the bike's controls and dashboard but are more costly than aftermarket. Wrap your left handlebar with electric tape before installing the heated grip as the handlebar acts as a heatsink; otherwise you will have a burning right hand and freezing left. The slipper clutch in the 2018-2020 Tracer 900 GT models can be directly dropped into the clutch of the 2015-17 models, TONS of guides on how to do this as it was a popular mod across the entire CP3 lineup (XSR900, FZ/MT09, etc). There's a Parshark kit with everything you need. I personally used an Ohlins STX46 rear shock with the remote preload adjuster on my bike. Many other forum goers here also use the same shock. I actually have mine sitting in the original box on a shelf as I pulled it off my 2015 before I bought my 2021 T9GT. If you're interested in it DM me and we can talk price. EDIT: KTM handguards are better than the factory Yamaha for cold weather riding, they bolt on even with the stock inserts in. The FZ09/MT09 bar ends will bolt straight on with the handle-bar inserts removed, I used those during the warmer season.

With regards to weight comments I think there is 1 exception to adding weight that is acceptable and that is payload capacity. If you moto camp or 2-up a lot the extra payload matters. BMW's 1250 bikes weigh more but they also have impressive payload capacity, I would guess the extra weight in those bikes comes mostly from more engine + more subframe metal. Curious to see where the NT1100 lands. Also the NT1100's 238kg weight definitely includes the bash-plate in the pictures which looks CHONKY; we'll see if Honda also includes side-cases in that weight. Honestly wish it came wither their 1200 v4 engine (vfr1200x) instead of the parallel twin. But like most of you I'm happy to see more bikes in a segment that offers practicality and fun. Will hopefully get more people on two wheels in the US where owning a bike is often more inconvenient than other countries. My issue is when bikes start having 550+lbs dry weight and there's no additional payload or power to make it up. Like HD bikes.

Generally speaking mounting systems by different manufacturers aren't compatible with each other; the only way to be sure is to look at the manual/instructions on the racks you want to buy and see if the mounting points interfere with each other or not. I would assume based on prior experience there wouldn't be an issue, Yamaha top racks generally mount to the subframe from under the pillion seat; Givi racks should mount to external luggage points already on the bike if it has them - ours do. Short answer is buy your mounting systems all from one manufacturer to be 100% sure. Be wary of Yamaha's top rack mounting method, it may not offer any extra support or rigidity to support the extra payload. The result is the infamous FJR1300 subframe cracking (that Yamaha refuses to acknowledge), aftermarket racks often times do have extra support.

Great write up thanks for sharing! Did they have a 2022 Indian Chief for demo? That's the first cruiser I've been interested in since Harley's old FXR series. Seems like a lot of people are having trouble with this... even Zach Courts couldn't figure it out: helmet goes in the saddle-bag chinbar up (upside-down?). My XL HJC RPHA 70 ST fits fine including Bluetooth communicator attached.

I personally want a Tracer 7 GT with cruise control state-side; it's probably my favorite looking bike at the moment and I love the sound of a piped CP2. I'd buy it day 1. That's why we're all here isn't it? The FJ/Tracer 9 series are the only "sport touring" bikes under 500lbs and still over 100HP and has a full electronics suite available; though theoretically you can slap bags on any sport bike for touring and deal with the shitty mpg/range *cough* MT10 *cough*.

I use the Highway 21 Heated Gloves for winter months, they are lighter on the palm insulation so as to work with your heated grips instead of blocking the outside heat. Bought them in December of 2017 and have used them every season no issues. I also like to use them as general winter gloves for prolonged outdoor sessions since they have their own batteries. I've heard good things about Gerbing's heated gear but that hooks up to your bike's battery.

I didn't even notice that the 360 view doesn't show the tail fender, kind of sus marketing. I agree, none of the midweight bikes having cruise control in the market is a bummer. Tracer 7 w/ cruise is probably my ideal bike if we get could it in the state side. I adore the sound of a piped CP2 engine. Aprilia has CC on the Tuono 660, maybe they'll make a mid-weight standard bike in the future. I'm surprised you're having a hard time getting a T9GT in PA, I bought mine in Eastern Ohio and at $1,000 less than MSRP. It seems like there was more demand for new-old-stock Tracer 900 GTs from what dealers were telling me while I was shopping.

TIGER SPORT 660 | For the Ride (triumphmotorcycles.com) Doesn't look like you can add cruise control, but everything else seems available as accessories. A little high on the price in my opinion as it's more expensive in base spec than the Kawi's Versys 650 LT that comes with luggage and hand guards. Just slightly cheaper than Suzuki's Vstrom 650 Touring that has luggage, guards, heated grips, and center stand. I suppose if you want a small triple it's the only choice. Certainly looks the part, tough segment to compete in.