2moronsgarage Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 New here… I currently have a 2012 R1, and have someone lined up to buy it. I’m ready to move on to something more comfy for the street since I’m doing track days regularly. To the point, I’m torn between the tracer (new or used) and the s1000xr (first gen) I’ve always been on Yamaha and love and trust the brand, whereas I question bmw. Just looking for other opinions and wondering if there are any big differences between the previous model tracer and the new ones.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member 2and3cylinders Posted June 21, 2023 Premium Member Share Posted June 21, 2023 Try Moto Guzzi V1000 Mondello 😆 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member Heli ATP Posted June 21, 2023 Supporting Member Share Posted June 21, 2023 Failure rate of Yamaha 11% v BMW at 40%. Then consider the cost of service and enough said, or is it? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smd3 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 Bennett’s has a good write up of the first gen XR. I bet they have one for the generation of Tracer you’re considering, if you decide to buy used. obviously prices are UK specific, but they do discuss what to look for with these bikes. https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/bikes/bmw/bmw-s1000xr-2015-current-review-buying-guide-price-spec 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPD419 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 I’m too tight to own something undependable and expensive to fix. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member texscottyd Posted June 23, 2023 Supporting Member Share Posted June 23, 2023 Hi @2moronsgarage - welcome to the forum. We’re obviously a bit biased here towards the Tracer, but hopefully you’ll find a lot of useful information. I looked closely at a S1000XR around 2017 or 2018, but decided the FJ09 I already had was the better bike for me. The XR has a lot going for it: It’s got a ton of motor, the fit & finish was vastly better than the early FJs, and the wind protection is superior. But, I rode two different bikes, and they both had a very noticeable (and to me intrusive) vibration through one of the footpegs… it was the left side, as I recall. I love big four-stroke singles, so vibrations usually don’t bother me, but this one was a buzzing high frequency that I couldn’t ignore. Definitely ride one to see if it’s an issue for you. Honestly, the biggest thing for me was the relative lack of character of the XR vs the FJ/Tracer. What the CP3 lacks in power, it more than make up for in its fun, usable, always-ready-to-play personality. That motor is the reason I still have & enjoy the FJ after 7 years of ownership. The newer Tracers are more refined (especially the all-new T9), but they’re still bikes with a lot of personality. And to me, personality goes a long way…. Good luck in your search. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnmark101 Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 The Tracer will have all the performance you will ever need for the street and will likely be far more reliable and cheaper to own. There is nothing like spending a day riding with friends in the grip of a shared obsession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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