duhs10

Get the GT... Don't lower it... 

28 minutes ago, wordsmith said:

Yes indeed - thank you!

You are quite welcome.

This is what mine looks like...

I have a Puig Touring screen on my '15 FJ-09... I will go take a look at mine and upload some photos in a few minutes.

@wordsmith is this the thread you were thinking of?

9 hours ago, skipperT said:

Hey @piotrek thanks for the words. trimming spacers has made the biggest improvement, I only wish K-tech had mentioned that in the install instructions in the first place! I’m running a light Spectro shock oil with a low cst in the C leg instead of the recommended 5w, level set to 140mm.
Seems pretty good now, tweaking is ongoing! Glad I tore the forks back apart!

-Skip

Makes me wonder if I should have done that to the Ktech's when I had them.

4 hours ago, skipperT said:

I wondered that too, but the shipper included the stub of cardboard with the springs which showed the part number and spring weight.

Have put the forks back together yet? Did cutting the spacer do the trick?

Also, have you reached out to Ktech to get their advice?

On 7/18/2019 at 7:03 PM, KANNON said:

I have the 58x,great box and it looks good  in low position.I can easily fit 2 schuberth c3 size xxxl (65) helmets in it.I ordered it  overseas from a company called motion.i had to wait 2-3 weeks to get it but price was unbeatable.

Do you have a link by chance?? Been eyeballing the SHAD 58x for a while now..

Wow! That spring is way longer... wonder if you were sent the wrong springs.

2 hours ago, 2and3cylinders said:

What?!  Your in near-term communication with Matt?!!

Haven't talked to him in a while but I call to check on him every once in a while...

1 hour ago, skipperT said:

I need that wrench! Tool envy...

it came with the kit... @pattonme has it now.

Just for your reference @skipperT

13 hours ago, skipperT said:

Yes, weight off the bike.

I'm measuring 26-28mm of Total sag in the Front.

Bike standing (upright no rider, and suspension "settled") Front sag=15-18mm. Rider added increases the number to 26-28mm (so stiction is between 2-3mm depending on measurement accuracy)

These measurements are with the preload measurement backed-off all the way CCW.

Did you happen to receive a parts list (with part numbers) when you received your suspension? Just found some documentation from my experience with the IDS system..

Spacer: 120-221-128

Spring: 36-260-VAR (I'm assuming VAR is going to indicate the rate)

19 minutes ago, betoney said:

OK, that makes sense, yes, the spacer will pre-load the spring.  Did the stock cartridge use a spacer?  If there was a spacer, was the spring compressed the same amount?

 

Yes there is a space in the OEM forks... there is and needs to be a space for the Ktech as well.  It is possible that the spacer is too long but since you ordered the whole kit from Ktech I doubt that is the case.

When measuring sag in the front what is your method? Are you taking all weight off the front wheel for the first measurement?

Going off of memory here, but i believe it's like 145mm of available travel. So your static sag+rider sag should equal around 45-50mm.... if you are measuring 26mm of sag when you are on the bike but the starting point was bike weight on the front wheel then that should be close to 45mm total sag... I think...

I saw that too... such a shame.

North GA seems to still be open. Suches, Blood Mountain, Helen area...

6 minutes ago, BBB said:

You’ll still need to undo the locknut on the adjuster and release the axle nut.  I can’t see the claimed increase in precision myself, but they sure do look nice.

I installed these as well.. primary reason was due to the axle head digging into the OEM axle block.  I do like the adjustment mechanism of the Gilles Tooling kit but I don't necessarily find it easier or quicker.  I am able to get more precise adjustments because of the included measuring tape (for lack of better word) that you stick to the swingarm. After initially aligning the rear wheel it is easy to see how far you have moved each side.

10 hours ago, betoney said:

Were you able to  dial out some of the compression damping? or were they harsh regardless?  I'm curious if K-Tech components are focused more for sport 

They were great when the bike was being ridden aggressively, especially when I took the hard cases off and when traveling 60mph or quicker.  

During my commutes, I felt every single minuscule bump in the road. To the point that it's all I could focus on.

I think there were several factors in play here and I still feel that the Ktech IDS-20 are quality suspension. .. 1) personal preference... 2) I lost a bit of weight after getting my shock done by Norwest and I think it was over sprung. I was able to get sag numbers but just my opinion... 3) poor surface streets.

I still have my eyes on some Ohlins NIX-30 street and a Y535 or something... can't pull the trigger right now as Ivwork for an airline and my career is very much uncertain at the moment.

12 hours ago, skipperT said:

That was my assumption as well - because during a track day you could remove the fork caps withdraw the spring without the need for any type of tool as the spacer wouldn’t be sitting on top of the spring. 
great info Duhs10, thanks. Was Matt revalving Andriannis for you or something like that?

-Skip

 

It was a long process... I wasn't happy with the first iteration of his intermediate forks. Matt, being the stand up guy that he is, sent me the Ktechs while he re-worked the custom forks to give me a little softer compression with the option to keep the Ktech if I like them.  I did like the Ktech when I was out riding like a hooligan, but 90% of my riding is commuting and I found them to be a bit harsh on surface streets at lower speeds (45mph ish) so I abused them until Matt was finished and sent them back when the custom job was done.

I had a set if Ktech IDS 20s for a month or so... @pattonme sent them to me when he was working in a solution to my suspension.  I dont remember the install being anything too tricky.  No issues setting sag.  I weighed 175lbs and I had a .85 and a. 90 spring for a total .875  rate in the front.

What I do remember is that I had the same question come up with the spacer (under or over the spring)... Matt told me it would make no difference in the performance of the suspension and that the reason they recommend the spacer under the spring is for track days so that if you wanted to swap out springs it could be done with minimal disassembly.  

I honestly haven't looked into it myself but I tend to believe what Matt tells me...

@redfjninerWhat are your total miles on the bike now?

1 hour ago, keithu said:

Noise, yes that makes sense. Is it a lot more noise with the foam removed, or just a bit of extra intake howl? 

Nothing massive but it is noticeable.

On 3/15/2020 at 10:04 AM, keithu said:

I question the benefit of that. Any slight gain in airflow might be offset by the resultant warmer fuel, reducing air/fuel mix density.

@2wheeldynoworksis who began advising owners that the removal of the foam was beneficial... they have the bikes on the dyno and I doubt he would make it up for $#!+$ and giggles. Regardless I actually like the increase in induction noise.

2 hours ago, betoney said:

I might have to give them another chance and try their Nano-Glass version.  I tried the anti-glare a few years ago and hated it but from photos posted here, it looks like the nano -is absolutely crystal clear.

It is very clear. I can't even tell it's there except for the edge of the nano-glass.

I put a Speed Angel's screen protector on my '15.... nice product.

Although my display screen has faired just fine through the years so I'm wondering if it was necessary.... oh well, 1 more farkle to add to the list.

My ECU was flashed by Dave (vcyclenut).  Definitely looks like his signature.