Newbie question

[dragonxyz]

Hello all, new here and new to Niken.  It was tough to find one but I'm so glad I did.  

For the life of me I've checked the manual and browse via the messages here I cannot figure this out.

When I shift to 1st and let the clutch out about halfway, it does this throttle assist which I really not a fan of.  Is there a way to turn this off??  

Or did I get a lemon niken with a special feature?  

Thank you in advance

[PhotoAl]

Welcome and nice bike or is it a trike LOL.  I'll call it a bike 🙂   Sorry, can't help you with the throttle as I have a 2020 Tracer GT.  I was not aware of that "feature".  My guess it's intended to help prevent stalls but I like being in control.  Does it still do it if you make a more aggressive start?  Sometimes I start just above idle and make a slow start but other times it higher revs and a much more aggressive throttle for a quick launch.  Does it "assist" all the time?

I've looked at the Niken and seriously contemplated one and might have bought one but wound up trading in the middle of a trip gone sideways and bought the tracer.  LOL when I arrived to make the transaction had to overcome the temptation of an Africa Twin as well as a FJR both of which were great deals.  I do a lot of long trips and ride in all kinds of weather and the security of the dual front wheels interests me.

[dragonxyz]

Thank you, yes it's definitely a trike that needs some balancing work.  Previously I have a Kawasaki Versys 1000 (still do, trying to sell it)  before that FZ-07 that was a fun bike.

No problem, appreciate the reply.  I'm still scratching my head but yes every time I let the clutch out 1/2 way it starts to throttle.   It only assist on 1st from a stop, I don't like it at all but it does seem to have a steady throttle as I release the clutch.  Great feature if you're new and prevents stalling...   I might have to stop by a Yamaha dealer and see if they know.  

It took a while to get this Niken GT as my initial dealer I've purchased the bike from somehow "LOST" it when my shipping guy about to go pick it up.  Gave me some bs excuse how their partner "auctioned" it off without letting them know.  (right..)   They straight up took my money and sold (my bike) to the highest bidder.  I got the money back but still, wasted my time.  

I don't do a lot of long trips (did 1k miles round trip once and that wore me out)  but I am planning to get another (shorter) trip out soon.  

[maximNikenGT]

Welcome - what year is your bike? I'm not recalling my 2019 GT doing what you're suggesting since I've stalled it in first gear before by not applying enough gas. 

[HGP61]

7 hours ago, PhotoAl said:

Welcome and nice bike or is it a trike LOL.  I'll call it a bike

 

7 hours ago, dragonxyz said:

Thank you, yes it's definitely a trike that needs some balancing work

+1 on the welcome to the forum, the legislation in the U.K. states that if the distance between the wheels on a vehicle is less than 600mm it counts as one wheel and it would be a bike. If the wheelbase is more than 600mm then it would be a trike. Motorcycle news had an article a few years ago about a bike/trike that used a couple of spacers to change the wheelbase and let the vehicle fall into the two different categories.

After reading that back I realize that apart from the welcome to the forum bit(that is a genuine welcome) I must be bored and I've just spent ten minutes trying to find out unsuccessfully what the Niken front wheelbase is. I so much  wish it wasn't below zero degrees and snowing outside and I could go out on my bike.

[pelayo]

9 hours ago, dragonxyz said:

I don't do a lot of long trips (did 1k miles round trip once and that wore me out)  but I am planning to get another (shorter) trip out soon.

Longest ever trip before Niken: 70miles. With Niken, 500 miles no problem, despite broken sacrum, coccys and wrists.

[dragonxyz]

12 hours ago, maximNikenGT said:

Welcome - what year is your bike? I'm not recalling my 2019 GT doing what you're suggesting since I've stalled it in first gear before by not applying enough gas. 

Mine is also 2019 Niken GT.  Initially I was looking at non-GT but then I came across a GT which was even better.  Now I'm suspecting this "feature" is just on my bike.  That's the problem buying from a dealer (I got this from Texas)  They usually have no clue the history of the bike vs buying from a private party.  

I'll probably stop by Yamaha dealer later and ask about this (just didn't want to look stupid if it was a simple button or something from my menu) 

[texscottyd]

@dragonxyz - Congrats on the Niken, and welcome to the forum!  If you got the bike from Texas, it has to be a good one…  

That throttle assist thing is a new one to me, as I haven’t heard any mention of it before.   If you just let the clutch out at idle, does it stall like a ‘normal’ bike would?   It’s an interesting concept to help assist a new rider, but I would hope it could be disabled somewhere in the menu configuration.   

[dragonxyz]

Thank you all for the warmth welcome.  @HGP61 I hope it gets warmer for you to ride soon maybe early Spring?  @pelayo I picked the worst time to do my 1k round trip to Cali, it was Summer time with 100F+ heat, was just sweating bullets the whole time, had to stop every hour to stay hydrated.   @texscottydThank you and yes I agree I got the bike from DMT (Dream Machines of Texas), no bs, straight up price and they even handle shipping so I don't have to deal with uShip.   But yes I can't stall the bike on 1st even if I want to, it starts to throttle up till the clutch is disengaged.  Only time I can stall it is if I have the kickstand down and shift into 1st.  And MAYBE if I start on 2nd as it doesn't throttle assist there.   Maybe previous owner was a new rider and had this feature programmed into the ECU?  I really wish I can disable it easily like in the menu. 

[daveboy]

Mine does this and after a while you don't notice.

[biggo]

Mine does the same raises idle speed by maybe 100rpm when you let clutch out dont think it would stop a stall if you let it ou all the way though

 

[knyte]

Could it just be FI making up for the drop in RPM's?  ...not quite the same as throttle assist, but...not sure if any of our bikes came with TA?

[PhotoAl]

Was just wondering something similar - if the throttle bodies are out of sync would letting the clutch out to the point of engagement cause enough drop in revs for it to give more throttle?

[peteinpa]

Do an operational check of your clutch switch. Seem to remember something about idle changing whether switch is on or off.

[Urs J]

Helps the cold engine in the roll on process. Once your engine is hot, the effect is reduced. Has nothing to do with not synchronized flaps. Could be theoretically be changed in the fuel map, unfortunately no software available [tune ecu does not work with yamaha can].