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That is my thinking, bought mine in South Dakota, rode it around and had the 600 mile service done there then rode it 1,400 miles home. Since then have hut another few hundred miles on it. Not a hint of wobble or weave - still not comfortable taking hands off the bars but actually didi just for a moment today on the interstate. Very stable. For there to be bikes that are unstable and ones that are not says to me there must be an adjustment or something that is out. I can see where rear wheel alignment could cause or aggravate the issue. The bike is very light and quick to turn in which would probably accentuate any issues. When I piked the bike up the tires were at the proper pressure for single rider no luggage. LOL I finally got around to adjusting them 1,100 miles later! Set them to 36/42PSI. Absolutely no change. I've aligned bikes using the string method, I need to check the Tracer GT to see how well it is aligned. I did adjust the chain once but did that by turning the same number of flats on the adjustors. I never use the alignment marks on the swingarm.

Took a 250 mile ride today - it's rough being retired :-) 180 miles of interstate. Paid particular attention and it defiantly does not have any wobble or instability. I have never felt the need to rush by a truck due to instability. What I do notice is it is very quick to turn and is not super directional i.e. it will wander a bit if I don't pay attention but I can put it exactly where I want it and keep it there without problems. IMO that is related to it ability to quickly turn, it surprises me at how light and nimble it is. Never had instability with OEM tires but didn't wait for them to wear out - took them off and gave them away. Running a Michelin Pilot Power 5 front with a 32 to 33 PSI pressure. Rear is 38 to 40 PSI and a Michelin Road 5. However I don't think tires cause or cure instability but can help or aggravate a problem. I'm at 7mm drop on the front forks. IMO there is something in the build tolerances or adjustments of the front end that causes this issue. Seems like there are bikes that have it and others that don't which is perplexing. Hope some of this info helps those who are having the issue.

Haven't seen one but don't now why it would not work. It is not fused and will not protect wiring or deices if a short circuit occurs. I really like it but at that price point for another $70 or so I would rather have the Neutrino with current limiting. For lower power devices conventional relays from Amazon are available in a 2 relay board from Amazon. Popular with folks working with Arduinos and Raspberry Pi's. Straying off topic a bit I thought a bit about how to control aux lights. On my BMW had a device which worked off the CanBus and could be set to do things based on day/night, high/low beams, brake signal. It had PWM built in so could adjust aux light brightness - I had 4 selections of brightness (day/night High/low) which was very nice. Gradually there seem to be more devices coming but no one has jumped from simple relays to a device that uses CanBus for inputs and is programable from a phone. The Hex ExCAN I had was programmed from a notebook via a USB port. Ive toyed with the idea of using an Arduino to take inputs and generate outputs but haven't found a good PWM unit to use with it. Inputs would be day/night, high/low beams, brake signal and left/right turn signal. This would give me the flexibility needed for broad aux light control as well as tail light/brake light control. A good winter project :-)

My 2020 is stable, rode it today and was behind a big tall van, getting pretty good turbulent gusts but the bike was stable. I did not have the side cases on but that has not made a difference before. I'm down 7mm in the forks but didn't have any issues when I rode it home from South Dakota which was 1,400 miles of 2 lane to 4 lane to interstate and some quick riding. This is a quite perplexing issue and have a hard time believing it is just aerodynamics. The fact that it affects some bikes and not others makes me wonder if something is a bit loose. I ride with my elbows bent and try and have a relaxed grip but sometimes just get a bit of a tight grip. Ive never owned a "big, heavy, stable" bike. First was a Ninja 250 and it was buffeted by winds from trucks but it would cruse all day at 80MPH with no issues. Bikes I've had since then have all been between 425 and 470 pounds and they would get buffeted but always tracked straight and true. The Tracer GT is very light on its feet and I love the way it moves but mine does not weave at all. EDIT: Want to be clear I'm not saying you folks with the weave are crazy or bad riders, it is perplexing there seems to be significant differences in some bikes.

Did not realize how much impact on the motorcycle business in SE Asia CV has had - have owned a couple of Kawasaki bikes and hope they do well.

I bought an outlet adapter plug from AutoZone and used that for a while. No problems at all - didn't get the cheapest one but one with pigtail leads I added crimp connectors to. It worked very nicely. I have since relocated it to the connector under the windscreen. I have a Neutrino Aurrora to install and will have a spare connector so may relocate to that. The 12V to 5V converter for the Zumo XT is not really weatherproofed and would be nice to have it in a better location. I used the adapter plug on the way home after buying the bike and it was perfect with no issues. I've heard of them getting loose and not working but not mine. It was there for 6 days and about 2,000 miles but no rain.

I probably complain too much. Will have to say I had my BMW serviced just before all the long trips I took on it. Now the dealer did mess up some important stuff and I always checked tire pressures they did make sure the brake fluid was full, coolant, clutch lever adjustment was all correct. I didn't ever really check any of that stuff - LOL the one time I adjusted the clutch to my liking they adjusted it to the "BMW Way" so I just lived with it. As I said the dealer I bought my bike from was exceptional and I had no issues at all. Good dealers are out there just need to find them, find a good mechanic or do your own work. Also remember folks are more likely to complain about a bad experience than a good experience.

You are not the first Corvette to haul a motorcycle :-) and yes that is a real ZR1 - he was a very interesting fella to talk to. Most ZR1s are in collections and are not driven much if at all. That's a nice trailer and car. I would expect it to do quite well pulling 1,000 pounds in a low profile trailer. See a fair number of Corvettes at the track using a small trailer to haul track wheels and tires and tools. Only concern I would have is if you have an automatic transmission with a cooler and do higher speeds in hot weather - have read some of them have heat issues when used for a track day. I keep telling the Mrs. I need a C8 but haven't gotten approval yet, I do have a trailer and a Tracer GT though :-) I just ride my bike to the roads and have a blast. I'm retired and have taken several long trips in the last two years. Al day riding in the rain is not so much fun but makes great memories! My trailer is an old Holzclaw, if anyone remembers the two rail dir bike trailers they made in the 70s and 80s. I completely rebuilt mine and removed the rails and replaced with a bed of 5/4 deck boards. It was built to haul my ZX6R 636 but has never hauled a motorcycle. I need to check the wheelbase and calculate where the Tracer GT would sit just in case I need to haul it. I replaced the wheels with 15" radial wheels and tires from eTrailer. They are a trailer tire and are speed rated. You have probably done this but repack the wheel bearings. Lack of quality grease seems to be a major problem with small trailers. If you can add a couple of shocks it makes a big difference when hauling a bike or anything else. Used mine to haul wood when repairing my deck. It did really well even though a couple of times I know it was near the load capacity due to the sam in the springs. When I put the bed on I replaced the front crossmember with a piece of Unistrut. Kept the front cross member and the rails so could convert back if I wanted to.

LOL no I'm not brave, actually stayed in the area and put 600 miles on the bike in 3 days, had the service done and then headed home. On the seat topic something I noticed about my BMW comfort seat which I bought 8 months after I purchased the bike. I was used from eBay but didn't show much wear. At first was quite firm and while better than the standard seat was not that great. However after about 1,000 miles it became much better. Guess it needed to be broken in or sat in or whatever but wound up being a seat that with an AirHawk I could ride all day without issue.

@Clegg78 you have me interested in the Pirelli Scorpion 2 tires. Happy with my current setup but have gone by many gravel roads out west. With my previous bike, a BMW F800GT, which has a belt drive I avoided gravel roads whoever possible. However with the Tracer GT and a set of the Scorpion 2 tires would be much more willing and able to tackle a gravel road. I added a pic of a gravel road somewhere in Wyoming. On all the bikes Ive had the front tire wore much more slowly than the rear tire. I would wear out almost 2 rear tires for each front. Although my previous bike (BMW F800GT) wore the front faster the others so only got about 1 and a half rears per front. Here is a photo of 3 rear tires from my BMW. Left is 6,000 miles, center is 3,800 miles mostly straight highway and right is a new Road 5. The center tire is currently on my Tracer GT. I have done several trips of around 5,500 miles. I didn't have confidence the Road 5 would last 11,000 to 12,000 miles so would up mounting a new rear before every long trip.

I know I won't get one for sure - just bought a 2020 Tracer GT. LOL when I traded my wonderful 2014 ZX6R 636 for a BMW F800GT and then started looking a year later I got lots of feedback from my wife. I mentioned the Aprilia 660 a couple of days ago but had to quickly add I'm not thinking about getting one. Now if a tree falls on my house tonight and crushes the kitchen (wife's dream) and my Tracer GT in the garage below well maybe. Hurricane arrives in 3 hours or so. Seriously though I look at the 2021 and think that would be nice but I'm still super happy with my 2020 Tracer GT so won't worry too much. I would love the cornering ABS but the other stuff is more in the nice to have side.

Nice love the matching color. When I rode thru Kansas it September it was sunny and 96F

Ive used Maximum before and like it. Had 18,000 miles on my CBR600RR with no issues and 7,000 miles on my ZX6R 636 with no issues. My fav chain is DID but EK makes good chains as well. Much prefer a riveted link, a bit more trouble to install correctly but much more reliable. I'm not crazy rigorous on chain cleaning and lubing but clean and lube every 500 miles. However when on the road may lube every couple of days - haven't had this bike out on a long trip other than the 1,400 mile ride home so will have to see how it goes.

LOL, actually not a lot of stuff or space. Over 30,000 miles in the last 2 years I've used most of it at least once but have never had a flat tire - well there was the time the service tech at the dealership pulled a screw out of the rear tire which went flat. They tried to sell me a new tire - I went by and picked up tire and took it to Cycle Gear and had them mount one of my spares on it. Int the time I had a couple of Road 5s with 6,000 miles on them. I've had problems with USB chargers and have spent some time troubleshooting issues with that while on the road. BMW bars vibrated so much it would destroy any USB charger mounted there in less than a day. In late August it had a rear wheel bearing fail 1,100 miles from home. I replaced the swingarm with one from eBay. Rode it 250 miles and traded it for my Tracer GT. Had to move all the mounts from the bars on the BMW to the Tracer GT. Also had to change how I was mounting stuff. Bought an outlet adapter from AutoZone, crimped terminals and connected my Zumo XT so I could navigate. I did have to buy some additional tools for the swingarm swap. Every bike I've owned has had a standard size or two for small fasteners and bolts. A couple of small wrenches, a 1/4" drive ratchet and a couple of small sockets are enough. I also look at what it takes to change wheels and try and include that just in case need a new tire. On my BMW F800GT it had a couple of side pouches under the seat I could stow the small tools and sockets. I think the Tracer has similar spots, just need to put stuff in plastic bags for the rain days.

Good job! LOL love the bottom left photo - make that case look like a 200L instead of a 58L. I've thought about a small one for a helmet, like the Yamaha rack better and your mount.

Thanks for posting up. Interesting, not sure if I like the styling, LED headlights look nice and follow the R1 and R6 look. IMO kind of looks like a naked with a big windscreen and fairings on the sides to smooth airflow. Since I just purchased a 2020 I'm curious to see what I might have missed by not waiting but don't think it would have changed my decision. I would like to see cornering ABS and better throttle response but those are not deal breakers for me. EDIT: Forgot to say good to see they didn't go for the adventure styling.

I would add allen wrenches to fit the various fasteners on the bike - haven't looked closely but 2 or 3 should cover most and a small pair of pliers. I've had bolts fall out on a long trip and was able to swap a less critical one into its place. A small voltmeter is also handy to troubleshoot stuff like why isn't this charging. a few zip ties of various sizes, 2 or 3 bungie cords, a packing strap, Grorilla tape, 3M double sided foam tape, and now face masks, hand sanitizer, pain meds, bandaids, antibiotic ointment, spare batteries for SPOT and visor cleaner. Tools go under the seat and the other stuff in the tank bag. Pretty much if it is something I may need quickly or frequently then its in the tank bag. Otherwise under the seat or a side case. In addition also carry a small Battery Tender brand usb adapter that plugs into the Battery Tender cord connected to the battery. A cell phone charger battery is also nice to keep cell charged. Over 5 two week trips in the last couple of years have used almost everything at some time. As for tools I carry, enough to change both wheels - have a long handled 3/8" ratchet which hopefully get the rear wheel loose and then tight enough to get me where I can have it torqued. A small assortment of sockets, allen wrenches wrenches. A small air compressor, tire patch kit and CO2 inflation kit. Not a lot of stuff but enough for minor repairs. I cary a SPOT and a Garmin inReach mini for communication when out of cell phone coverage and have a couple of towing plans as well. Ive talked about it other threads but in late August left on a 6,000 mile 17 day trip on my BMW F800GT. Had my usual assortment of tools tailored for that bike. Minor stuff plus enough to change both wheels. At the end of the second day had a catastrophic failure of a rear wheel bearing. Yes it failed just after everything closed so I had all night to ponder. Got up next morning and canceled the rest of my trip :-( ordered a swingarm from eBay and swapped the swingarm in the campground. Owner was super nice and let me use his shop area. I did spend $100 on tools at the local Harbor Freight which I gave most of to the campground owner. Nice to have a few tools but can't have everything. 1/3 of what I spent was for a torque wrench and an inverse Torx socket set in case i had to adjust the belt tension. My plan is to have enough tools for simple repairs and if major repairs are needed will either have it done or buy the necessary tools. I travel in remote areas and carry a bit more than if I was in a more densely populated area.

Here is a thread where there is some discussion of aux light mounting. I have procured most of the materials using inch measurements instead of metric. Looks like a good way to mount lights. Its very similar to the Givi. My lights are small ones from Amazon - I use aux lights for daytime visibility as I tend to avoid riding at night - but good aux lights are important for those times I have to ride after dark.

At 2,400 miles took the OEM tires off and put a Michelin Pilot Power 5 on the front and a Road 5 on the rear. The Road 5 has 3,800 miles from a previous bike and was a bit squared off, Power 5 is new and a rain tire. Its "stickier" than the Road 5. My only issue with the Road 5 is the front cupped enough at 12,000 miles on my previous bike that I replaced it. Lots of straight riding and I do brake fairly aggressively. Expect the Power 5 to not cup like the Road 5 as the tread blocks are different. I probably should have upped the pressure a bit but ran it at 36 psi. The Tracer GT is lighter in the front wold not expect it to wear just like previous bike. I'm super happy with the combination but working on getting it further leaned over - need clear roads I'm comfortable with and haven't hit that combination recently. I keep thinking about running some other tire but the Michelins have always done well for me and I am hesitant to give up something I know is good for something I don't know. Ive been running thru 2 rears and one front a year so if I dint like the tires wouldn't be long before they were off. Buuuuut ....

As you say "a ball to ride" isn't that what we are all chasing :-) and is why I think the 660 will do very well. A fast bike that is fun and easy to ride without killer ergos! There are some "spec sheet competitors" who say my bike is faster, has more displacement, has more HP, etc. But look at how many Tracer 700s and Tracer 900s Yamaha has sold. Fun bikes that art as powerful as a R6 but are also ridable in a practical sense. Cant quote the numbers but if I'm not mistaken the 2003 ZX6R still had reasonable ergonomics which made it more streetable than later bikes. Spent today working corners at a motorcycle track day. Amazing how a well ridden small bike is just as fast as a more powerful bike.

I know a fella who used to write workshop manuals for bikes back in the day. Not the manufactures manuals but 3rd party manuals. He said they would borrow a bike from a dealership or the factory, take it apart and then put it back together to do the manual. Along the way taking photos and notes. After the bike was back together they would return it. I'm sure it was sold to some unsuspecting but IMO lucky person. The bike had been completely disassembled but correctly assembled and was probably better than almost any other bike at the dealership. This was back in the day - this person is very knowledgeable about motorcycles but it still amuses me that they borrowed a bike to take apart and put back together and then return. Kind of like renting a Camry from Budget and taking it apart and putting it back together and then returning it. Hummmm I've seen more than one rental car participating in a track day!

Thats good to know, I do a lot of log trips to the western states and am many times well over 3,400' elevation. I've not noticed a difference but do put E0 in whenever I can. I have a Honda Metropolitican that sometimes goes months without being started - I have two scooters and it is the least favorite due to the frightful acceleration from the mighty 49cc engine. It takes a bit longer to start but after the first start it starts and runs very nicely. The closest gas station is a Shell and have always used their gas. Put regular in the scooters and premium in the Tracer GT.

Never ridden with a 1290 but from what I see at the track there is not as much difference between a 600 and a liter bike below 100mph. Liter bikes have good pull with lots of torque but its on the longer straights that the power really is noticeable. In WERA more than one have seen a 600 rider "ride up" and race in the liter bike race and run mid pack or better. Lots of fun to watch them go at it. Watched Danny Eslick running with a good rider on a liter bike. Danny couldn't get around the liter bike but the liter bike couldn't pull away either. Lots of fun to watch. Don't think either of them are racing anymore. My butt dyno says the Tracer GT is as quick as my ZX6R 636 was although the ZX6R would probably outrun the Tracer GT at any speed over 115 :-)

LOL not saying I'm in love with the seat, in fact just saw a post on a Bagster seat and thinking about it. Had looked at them earlier but didn't see any for sale in the US, now this fella posted a link to one in the US! I've always wanted a comfy seat but have never had one - closest was my BMW comfort seat with an AirHawk on top - I could ride that all day without much discomfort. On the Tracer I could make it thru a tank of gas before needing to stop - 140 to 175 miles. Thats why I say its not bad. When I bought the bike I rode 110 miles back to where I was staying nonstop and without any difficulty. Had a Sargant on my CBR600RR and it was not a lot better than stock but I still rode it 300 to 350 miles a day and a couple of times did 600 miles in a day. Corbin seems to have some mixed reviews but the Bagster seems to have almost all great reviews.

I've had no issues with shifting into 4th or 5th that weren't my fault. Wondering if your clutch is adjusted properly. I would certainly get the dealer to take a look at it. Biggest problems Ive had have been finding neutral between1st and 2nd a couple of times - both times I was doing a lazy shift, uncertain as to wether I was going to use the clutch or QS and so totally screwed up the shift - but my fault. When riding around the neighborhood or in residential areas I almost always shift early and slowly and use the clutch. IMO QS is good when hustling. An absolute blast when going up thru the gears. I got into the habit with my last bike of shifting early and not using much throttle when in populated areas with lower speed limits. Started doing that to stretch gas mileage.