wordsmith Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 Is it OK to use motor-car engine oils in our bikes, so long as it's a good brand of the correct spec? Riding a fully-farkled 2019 MT-09 Tracer 900 GT from my bayside home in South East Queensland, Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gv550 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 The owners manual says to use oil with a JASO MA spec, and to avoid oils for diesel engines. Many oils for cars are incorrect viscosity and have an energy conserving feature which must also be avoided. 2019 Tracer GT, Ontario, Canada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fURYOS Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 No it certainly is not ok. I went to to look at a DRZ400 I was planning on purchasing. I did not purchase the bike as it could not find neutral. The guy selling it called me the next day and explained that he had used car oil in it. He told me that he has since changed it to moto grade oil and it was running perfectly now. Needless to say I passed on buying the bike still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wordsmith Posted April 30, 2019 Author Share Posted April 30, 2019 So - oils ain't oils! Riding a fully-farkled 2019 MT-09 Tracer 900 GT from my bayside home in South East Queensland, Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member micah2074 Posted April 30, 2019 Premium Member Share Posted April 30, 2019 I’ve used “car” oils, “diesel” oils, and “motorcycle” oils that meet the JASO specs for many 10’s of many 1000’s of many miles. Never had an oil related problem. Let’s go Brandon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitown Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 14 hours ago, wordsmith said: Is it OK to use motor-car engine oils in our bikes, so long as it's a good brand of the correct spec? Yay an oil thread! Use the least expensive oil I can find that meets the viscosity recommendation *and* any recommendation pertaining to wet clutches (See image). Have done this with all motorcycles for many years and never a single clutch or engine oil related failure. Motorcycle Consumer News dispelled the "It's got a motorcycle label on it, it must be better" myth ages ago. It doesn't stop oil threads tho. Folks will be in here talking about magnesium and doing oil analysis and reading bob is the oil guy and judging a filter by cutting it open. It's all just noise. Ride more worry less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellow Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Just put some Rotella T4 15w40 in mine. It has JASO MA/MA 2 certification, and so does T6... so it's fine even if it is considered a diesel oil... it doesn't have any "CD" certification looking at the Rotella site... https://rotella.shell.com/en_ca/products/full-synthetic-and-blend-oil/t6-full-synthetic/_jcr_content/par/productDetails.stream/1534447370269/1d9796571bec4fbd88bd2156935598ce8e41a519/t6-5w40-ssht-lr.pdf https://rotella.shell.com/en_ca/products/conventional-motor-oil/rotella-triple-protection/_jcr_content/par/productDetails.stream/1534447411995/37a6af648f5c50bb3adb3b2c9cb8bccef5ffd058/t4-15w-40-broc-lr.pdf ST-Owners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member whistler Posted April 30, 2019 Supporting Member Share Posted April 30, 2019 1 hour ago, chitown said: Yay an oil thread! LOL!! 👍 2019 Yamaha Tracer 900 GT (Annabelle) 2013 Suzuki V-Strom DL650 (Juliette) 2013 Yamaha FJR 1300 (Rachel) 2008 Suzuki Bandit 1250S (Fiona) 2006 Honda VFR800 (Jenny) 2005 Suzuki V-Strom DL650 (Hannah) 2003 Honda Shadow Sabre VT1100 (Veronica) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member whistler Posted April 30, 2019 Supporting Member Share Posted April 30, 2019 1 hour ago, mellow said: Just put some Rotella T4 15w40 in mine. It has JASO MA/MA 2 certification, and so does T6... so it's fine even if it is considered a diesel oil... it doesn't have any "CD" certification looking at the Rotella site... Rotella rocks! 👍 2019 Yamaha Tracer 900 GT (Annabelle) 2013 Suzuki V-Strom DL650 (Juliette) 2013 Yamaha FJR 1300 (Rachel) 2008 Suzuki Bandit 1250S (Fiona) 2006 Honda VFR800 (Jenny) 2005 Suzuki V-Strom DL650 (Hannah) 2003 Honda Shadow Sabre VT1100 (Veronica) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wordsmith Posted April 30, 2019 Author Share Posted April 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, whistler said: LOL!! 👍 So pleased to have brought a little lightness into your days, you guys!!! 😃 Riding a fully-farkled 2019 MT-09 Tracer 900 GT from my bayside home in South East Queensland, Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member whistler Posted April 30, 2019 Supporting Member Share Posted April 30, 2019 1 minute ago, wordsmith said: So pleased to have brought a little lightness into your days, you guys!!! 😃 All in good fun, Wordsmith! Definitely not my intention to offend. Oil, tires, seats and windscreens are probably the most subjective topics out there related to motorcycles among all of us wild children who ride'em! 2019 Yamaha Tracer 900 GT (Annabelle) 2013 Suzuki V-Strom DL650 (Juliette) 2013 Yamaha FJR 1300 (Rachel) 2008 Suzuki Bandit 1250S (Fiona) 2006 Honda VFR800 (Jenny) 2005 Suzuki V-Strom DL650 (Hannah) 2003 Honda Shadow Sabre VT1100 (Veronica) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wordsmith Posted April 30, 2019 Author Share Posted April 30, 2019 35 minutes ago, whistler said: All in good fun, Wordsmith! Definitely not my intention to offend. Oil, tires, seats and windscreens are probably the most subjective topics out there related to motorcycles among all of us wild children who ride'em! Def no offence taken, whistler - 'twas MY attempt to have a little fun too! Do not slit your wrists! You are quite correct about those other highly subjective topics; I've been around various motorcycle Forums for a very long time now, and the same things (and opinions) crop up all the time! Some folks would have you believe that black is white and the earth flat... Meantime, I'll stick to designated m/c specific oils, even if it is snake-oil! Riding a fully-farkled 2019 MT-09 Tracer 900 GT from my bayside home in South East Queensland, Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxtrot722 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 OK, so to add a question a little different. I use Castrol 10W40, it runs about $10.00 to $11.00 + tax a quart locally. Was considering purchasing online for a cost saving. Any thoughts on the possibility of this oil being fake? Meaning it is counterfeit by producing a container that looks right and putting some really low in stuff in the bottle. I have purchase a USB drive that was fake, the sellers overclocked the drive making it appear twice the size it really was, it failed in a few months. Called the Scandisk and they walked me through the process to proved it was counterfeit. 1970 DT-250 / 1972 250MX / 1973 360MX / 1974 250MX & 1974 CZ 400 Red Frame & SC 500 / 1978 YZ 250 / 1979 YZ250 / (2) 1980 YZ 250 / 1986 YZ 490 / 1989 YZ250 WR / 1994 YZ 250 / (2) 2002 YZ 426 / 2007 YZ 450 / 2007 DR 650, 2015 FJ 09 / 2020 YZ 250 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member texscottyd Posted April 30, 2019 Supporting Member Share Posted April 30, 2019 8 hours ago, chitown said: Yay an oil thread! While we’re on the subject, does anyone have any advice on engine break-in procedures? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member betoney Posted April 30, 2019 Supporting Member Share Posted April 30, 2019 1 hour ago, foxtrot722 said: OK, so to add a question a little different. I use Castrol 10W40, it runs about $10.00 to $11.00 + tax a quart locally. Was considering purchasing online for a cost saving. Any thoughts on the possibility of this oil being fake? Meaning it is counterfeit by producing a container that looks right and putting some really low in stuff in the bottle. I have purchase a USB drive that was fake, the sellers overclocked the drive making it appear twice the size it really was, it failed in a few months. Called the Scandisk and they walked me through the process to proved it was counterfeit. I just ordered a six pack of the exact same stuff on eBay from pep boys. I have no way of knowing if it’s legitimate or not. ***2015 Candy Red FJ-09*** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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