rlambke19

Love the music choices as well. Suited the flow of the riding and the gorgeous scenery. Awesome job!

2 minutes ago, Clem Fandango said:

 

I don’t think the spy shot Tracer looks too bad. The new MT on the other hand, that thing is hideous. 

Agreed.

It's odd as it seems like Yamaha's styling was some of the more aggressive (maybe even progressive?) of the major brands.

The 2021 MT-09 feels like a step backwards. 

I wonder if they'll "update" the MT-10 for 2021. I always liked the "Transformer" look of that bike.

Rob

Not sure if this additional torque & power is negated by the monstrous (and likely highly restrictive Euro5 controls and cat), but hopefully it can be released with an aftermarket exhaust and tune.

• 7% increase in maximum torque at lower RPM
• 4 hp increase in maximum power

24 minutes ago, Clegg78 said:

yeah that is some chonky exhaust.  Credit Euro5.  I read up on how strict Euro 5 is, and its brutal on a bike.   There is a reason there are cat's now all the way to the front of the engine and they had to lighten the rest of the bike so much... 

A few folks on the FB groups are saying Yamaha will announce the new Tracer in the next couple of weeks.

I'm hoping I can get down with the looks as it sounds like the other upgrades would be worth the wait.

Rob

37 minutes ago, Clegg78 said:

2021 Yamaha MT-09 Hyper Naked Motorcycle - Model Home

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2021 Yamaha MT-09 Hyper Naked Motorcycle

   New 20201 MT is up on their site.  TONS of changes, especially on the electronics and chassis! (the engine we already knew about )

THe ECU/IMU Chassis, and other bits probably will carry to the GT if the previous GT/MT-09 mapping were to be the same.    The Up/Down quick shift, IMU,  redesigned suspension are pretty neat. 

This plus the fact they haven't announced it yet bodes well for the Tracer, imo.

The MT-09 also looks a bit more pedestrian - more tame and less aggressive than it used to.

That exhaust tho' - just horrible looking.  

So, someone posted this on the Tracer FB group. Seems more legit that most of the other sites. If it is, I'm not sure what to think to be honest...

For those who don't read Italian,  my Chrome browser was able to translate it - but it doesn't provide too much more detail than the photos. 

Nuova Yamaha Tracer 9: le foto spia esclusive mostrano la 900 2021 - La Gazzetta dello Sport

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Avvistata a Milano la nuova Yamaha Tracer 900 in fase di servizio...

The Hindle header pipes look nice. I do have to admit that I am not that opposed to the look of the stock header. Hence why I liked the concept of the Scorpion slip-on as it keeps the stock header. I find the Akrapovic header to be very "square" looking. It doesn't hug the engine like the stock one does. One of  the things I really like about the Tracer is how it looks almost windswept and aggressive. Slapping on a boxy looking header pipe ruins that look for me. Yeah, I spend too much time thinking about this stuff. 😉

2 minutes ago, ontheroad said:

Full system is only $1.100 for me, tax included and free shipping. 

What finish did you go with on your muffler? I think I spec'd out a oval C/F and it was around $1000 before tax.

Rob

35 minutes ago, Blythe said:

I'm actually in Whitby myself, and I didn't realize hindle was so close! Im going to give them a call today for a quote! Especially during covid, I would love to support local!

Cool.

Let us know what you find out. Always liked Hindle's quality. Glancing at their website (which is way better than it used to be) - looks like they offer full systems - and you can choose which style and finish of muffler you add to it.

Rob

18 hours ago, Jayzonk said:

A fender extender for the front might be nice to keep anything from spitting off the front wheel and onto the engine or pipes.  The existing fender looks adequate enough to protect the radiator guard, but not sure if it throws anything before that point?

I have the Pyramid front fender extender, but haven't installed it yet. It was reasonably priced and as I was ordering the rear hugger I had them throw it in the box.

@Blythe

First off - welcome to the club!

Secondly - there are quite a few of us in Ontario. You can use the Member Map at the top menu to see who is in your area.

Also - there is a thread in the Canadian FJ-09 owners section here: 

As for your mods, I'll offer you my opinions (so take for what it's worth):

Windscreen - yes you will want to change if you are getting buffeting. Depending on your height - you might want to consider a shorter screen. I'm 5'8" and I went with an MRA Sport screen and love it. There is a bit more air flow than stock, but it's "clean" air - which I like. I'm not a hide behind the windscreen kind of rider. But everyone is different. People also seem to have good results with the Puig Sport.

Fender eliminator - I don't mind the stock one. I did replace the stock hugger with a Pyramid Plastics one. This bike throws up a LOT of dirt and debris when it's wet out. If you plan on doing any tours it helps a lot.

LED signals - why did Yamaha put f-ugly 90s pumpkin bulbs on this bike? No one knows - trying to use up some old stock maybe? I had the dealer install the OEM Yamaha LED signals. They look and work great. You will need a relay installed as well, otherwise they flash at the "Euro" rate. You also lose the daytime running light feature for the front if you go this route. There are options that you can find that will allow you to keep this feature - but I went with the OEM option for fit and finish.

Side cases - I have the city bags that came with my GT. They are small. Honestly - look at the Shad or Givi options. For less money you get way more room.

Exhaust -   lots of options here. I've been most intrigued by the Scorpion slip-on which requires you to cut the stock exhaust, eliminating the catalytic converter. There is a bunch of good info on this forum under the exhaust sub-forum.

Ride safe!

Rob

Cambridge, ON

11 hours ago, ontheroad said:

Im in Whitby so Hindle is close and they have a dyno,my system should be ready in a couple of weeks.Not much choice for slip on as far as I could tell .This will make a great winter project as I have new bars and heated seat pad to install also.

@ontheroad - would love to see pictures etc. of the final result. I had a Hindle on my ZX-9R and loved it. Didn't know if they had something that would work with the FJ/Tracer. Their website as always been very confusing - to the point where I give up.

Cheers,

Rob

Cambridge, ON

1 minute ago, Jayzonk said:

As for other accessories, I ordered several pieces from a UK company (no names here), as well as some from a Californian company for an older R3 that I had, and I ended up removing them all. Things that seem well thought-out don't always end up that way...

I think my new mantra will be to stay bone stock unless there is a really compelling reason to change something.  

Fair enough and 100% agree.

The only things I added/changed on my 2019 was:

-add the rad guard

-swap out the 90's pumpkin bulb turn signals for the OEM Yamaha LEDs (had them installed prior to delivery)

-added a Speedo Angel cover for the TFT dash 

-added rear hugger to reduce spray from rear wheel

I thought about a Scorpion slip-on, but the exchange rate discouraged me. 

Rob

27 minutes ago, Jayzonk said:

Okay, so I suspect the EvoTech one slips under the bolts that hold the rad?  Sounds like a better fix. 

Correct. The installation docs are on their website (which you have probably already seen). Plus the rubber standoffs they supply really do the job of keeping the guard off the radiator. I've used other brands (R&G) on other bikes and they only send you pieces of foam that you have to cut to size. :-/ 

Lots of cheaper, rip-off versions on Ali Express and eBay - but honestly I'd rather support the folks who spend the time and money researching and designing things to protect our bikes. And their customer service is excellent. But that's just me. 🙂

Rob

8 minutes ago, Jayzonk said:

There is no OEM Yamaha radiator guard on the Yamaha Canada website, but I know they make it for other markets.  I see there are some older FJ-09 ones, not sure they'd fit or not.

Not sure, but I've heard the Yamaha one attaches with zip ties (!)

The Evotech one is pricey but super well built and designed. 

29 minutes ago, Jayzonk said:

I haven't done anything to mine yet, but I have ordered the bag liners.  I think they also fit the FJR, and might actually say FJR on them, but that's fine with me.  I don't mind sharing components with that platform!

Did you have to take the side fairing off to install the rad cover?  

Did you install frame sliders too?  I think I am going to stay pretty much bone stock, other than the rad cover.  

As for the tail tidy, I had one on another bike and also removed it....there's nothing wrong with the stock pieces, and, in my opinion, they actually make the back of the bike look complete, and not abnormally truncated.  I think the aftermarket guys want to convince everyone that they are unsightly, but it just doesn't have to be my opinion.  On top of that, their tail "solutions" offer nothing for protection from water, mud, or other debris.  

The liners are FJR liners and have FJR on them. They are bigger than the Tracer bags, but fit fine.

I removed the side covers when installing my EvoTech rad guard.

Also not a fan of tail tidy solutions.

I have a Pyramid Plastics rear hugger which keeps the rear end cleaner than the stock one.

Rob 

@Jayzonk - didn't realize you are in London, ON! I'm in Cambridge - and I actually talked to Inglis Cycle the other day. The BMW dealership where I rode the R1200RS was Wolf in London.

I am actually considering a Triumph Sprint GT - never owned a Triumph before but love triples. I wonder how it would compare to my old Tracer...

Cheers,

Rob 

11 minutes ago, betoney said:

Interesting, I was just at my dealership an hour ago and the owner said Yamaha hasn't released any info and probably wont for at least 4-6 weeks?  🤷‍♀️

My dealer also said something similar.

Is it just me or does that seem late for new models to be announced?

My hope is that this delay could possibly indicate that they are getting ready to announce some more changes.

Of course, being 2020 - anything is possible! 

Rob

While not a GS, I test rode an RS a few years ago as I really love the looks of that bike. Granted, this was a 1200,  and not the 1250 (which is supposed to be better) but I was so not impressed with the boxer engine. I'm sure it's a thing you get used to, but the power band was so much different to what I was used to that I couldn't justify the $20K on a bike who's engine didn't thrill me.

And this was all before I bought my Tracer - talk about an engine that thrills you!

Hope you find that you get the same experience on the Yamaha as many of do @Jayzonk! 

Cheers,

Rob

1 hour ago, Ride365 said:

No changes except for color in 21.....per the sales manager at my dealership.

Dang!

My 2019 was written off a few weeks ago and I've been waiting to see what the 2021 might look like before I decide on what to get.

Rob

@thewrenchbender

Is this the stuff you are referring to?

Rob

2 minutes ago, thewrenchbender said:

I’m only 3 months 4021 miles in. 

Am seeing some very very fine lines on my acrylic windshield (typical for me) if the sun is just right. No swirlies, only rub straight lines on windscreens (see below).

Front fender, hand guards, tank “side” panels, tank, lids on the panniers seem to be hanging in there “cleaning” scratch-free.

Is one spot on one of the handguards that I think is a light debris “mar”.

I just use regular spray detailer/synthetic “wax” on the copper/red panels.

I’ve been cleaning bug guts off of airplanes for going on 38 years. Longer you leave them on, the harder they are to remove/more likely to eat into the paint. Ya don’t rub in circles on plane windows/straight lines only-otherwise you can get halos at night.

The Beasley’s product does water-spot some, but I’ve yet to use the “detailer” or “cleaner”-have gotten everything off w/water. Used it on all the matte plastic also. Maybe could have held up a little better on the natural matte portion of the bags...seems to be fine on the nose/headlight bucket finish. 

Thanks @thewrenchbender!

This is great info. I usually clean off any bugs etc. when I get home from a ride, as you said the longer they sit on there, the harder they are to get off. I often just fill a mister bottle with warm water and that alone gets them to come off.

Cheers

Rob

6 minutes ago, thewrenchbender said:

Went with the Dr Beasley matte paint deal. They sell a smaller quantity “motorcycle” kit. 

Doesn’t bead water like the ceramic coating I had on my “gloss” bike, but is pretty easy to apply. 

Getting ready to throw another coat on for winter.

I de-bug mainly w/plain water on a Costco micro fiber.

Hope this helps.

It's amazing what some plain old warm/hot water sprayed through a mister can do. I sometime wonder how much hoodoo-voodoo black magic is really in chemical cleaners. It's likely mostly water anyways.

With this method do you find the finish marks up or swirls easily? I'm asking as clear coat finishes these days are so delicate that it seems the lightest touch ends up create a mark/swirl.

Yes, I do think about this stuff too much. I just know what irks me. 😉

5 minutes ago, kilo3 said:

I just use window cleaner. That's all it takes.
I even managed to drop my bike while stationary on a gravel road (long story) and the mat plastic held up much better than the copper gloss.

Thanks @kilo3

I haven't looked at one closely in person, but is the finish matte like the blue 2020 GT? It doesn't appear to have any clear coat on it.

Rob

Howdy all

So, my 2019 GT was written off a few weeks ago.

I'm looking to replace it and trying to decide if I like the 2020 black & red model.

The one thing I am concerned about is the finish on the tank, fender and front fairing (around the headlights) as it has what appears to be a satin finish.

Can anyone who owns one of these models let me know if it's a pain to keep clean and how they do so? Does the finish mar or scratch easily? It looks like it might be pretty finicky. Especially trying to get bugs off etc. 

I'm not interested in the full matte blue version.

I may wait until we see what the 2021 models look like first, but I could likely get a deal on a black and red 2020 at this stage.

Thanks in advance!

Rob