Supporting Member whistler Posted August 11, 2018 Supporting Member Share Posted August 11, 2018 Very subjective topic, I know. Not trying to stir up any shizzle, honest. Read some posts re: filters in the FJ09 threads; some seemed to work fine, others leaked. Wanted to post what I've found so far re: my 900 GT. Only tried 3 filters so far. More to follow as time and miles pass by. I changed the oil at 300 miles to hopefully remove whatever tiny metal shavings may have collected. Taking the GT in for its initial 600 mile service tomorrow. After that, I'll be doing'em as I've done on all my bikes. I've used Purolator PL14610s on my former FJR. Fit great, no leaks, no issues at all. Thought I'd try one on my GT. Threads and overall length were fine. But, it bottomed out without sealing tightly to the bike's filter base (sorry for the sketchy nomenclature; feel free to correct me as necessary). Anyway, after filling with fresh oil and running the motor to circulate it, I noticed a very slight oil weep that showed up whenever I used a dry paper towel (and then my dry finger) to wipe around the filter/bike mating surface. The weeping never stopped. I was bummed. Then I tried a Purolator Boss PL14612. No difference. Also bottomed out against the bike without sealing enough to prevent leaking during the subsequent motor start and circulation exercise. Then I tried a Mobile 1 M1-110. Fit great, sealed up tightly and no leakage. I was happy. Then I started wondering why the Purolators didn't seal on the GT like they did on my '13 FJR. So, I measured the distance between the filter gasket and the filter baseplate at the point nearest the filter's threads. I kept it simple and laid a steel rule across the gasket and used a 6" rule to measure the depth in mm. I'm sure there's some human tolerance slop in this method, but I was looking for "big picture" measurements as opposed to super-precise numbers. That said, these crude depth measurements were definitely different. Here's the 3 filters I measured. FYI...I didn't measure the M1-110, as I only had one of each filter and I wasn't gonna remove it from the bike. But I did measure the OEM Denso filter's baseplate depth and compared it to the 2 Purolators. Anyway, the 14610 had the shallowest depth at 5mm and was the least concave of the 3 filters in the pic. The Boss 14612 was a tiny bit deeper at 6mm and marginally more concave than the 14610. But...the OEM Denso filter baseplate was 9mm deep and wasn't so much concave as it was actually "recessed" from the filter's gasket. The Denso's baseplate was essentially flat, and noticeably uniformly flatter than the varying degrees of the Purolator concave profiles. Plenty of room that enabled the filter to seal tightly to the bike's filter base without bottoming out before establishing a good seal. Don't know why the Purolator's didn't work on my GT; I just know THAT they didn't work. I've read some posts where they fit some FJ-09s just fine, and leak on others . . . pretty strange to my simple mind. Anyway, the M1-110 fits and works fine on my GT. I'll measure my next M1-110 and see how it stands against the OEM Denso's baseplate depth, just for reference's sake. Some other filters that I may be trying when the time comes are the Hi-Flo 148, the NAPA 1356 and the Bosch 3323. For now, I'm just glad I found an aftermarket filter that seals tightly and doesn't leak. Sorry for the long post. Thanks for your patience. Will see how other filters measure up (or down, I guess) as time passes. Stay safe out there. 2019 Yamaha Tracer 900 GT (Annabelle) 2013 Suzuki V-Strom DL650 (Juliette) 2013 Yamaha FJR 1300 (Rachel) 2008 Suzuki Bandit 1250S (Fiona) 2006 Honda VFR800 (Jenny) 2005 Suzuki V-Strom DL650 (Hannah) 2003 Honda Shadow Sabre VT1100 (Veronica) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wordsmith Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Why not just stick with the Yamaha factory item? Riding a fully-farkled 2019 MT-09 Tracer 900 GT from my bayside home in South East Queensland, Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duhs10 Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Thanks for you observations. I would be surprised if there is any difference between FJ and Tracer 900 GT in terms of which oil filters fit.... FWIW I have just stuck to OEM filters. '15 FJ-09 w/ lots of extras... Fayetteville, GA, USA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member whistler Posted August 11, 2018 Author Supporting Member Share Posted August 11, 2018 Yep, I'll likely stick with OEM. Tried this experiment out of old habit and never being able to leave well enough alone. Must be that "old dogs and new tricks" syndrome, I suppose. One day I'll learn . . . 2019 Yamaha Tracer 900 GT (Annabelle) 2013 Suzuki V-Strom DL650 (Juliette) 2013 Yamaha FJR 1300 (Rachel) 2008 Suzuki Bandit 1250S (Fiona) 2006 Honda VFR800 (Jenny) 2005 Suzuki V-Strom DL650 (Hannah) 2003 Honda Shadow Sabre VT1100 (Veronica) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbeau Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 I. Currently using the Boss PBL14612 without issue but I think it might be an older version before they made the base more concave. Next I'll try the Fram XG7317, supposed to be a good filter and is the same for my car so if it works out I'll buy in bulk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koth442 Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 I run the Purolator PL14610 on my '15 FJ without issue. I have had this issue on other bikes with other filters. (<---LIES!!! See post below) I had a filter that sealed so poorly I lost almost a quart of oil overnight on my Daytona 675. Talk about a scary morning. About to head to work when ya notice a huge pool of oil underneath the bike '15 FJ09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krillz Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Hi-Flo 204 has worked well for me for a long time. Cycle Gear always has it and Amazon too. I keep a few on the shelf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member betoney Posted August 11, 2018 Supporting Member Share Posted August 11, 2018 Hi-Flo 204 has worked well for me for a long time. Cycle Gear always has it and Amazon too. I keep a few on the shelf. Same here, Ive been using the Hi-Flo filters for years. No issues. ***2015 Candy Red FJ-09*** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member betoney Posted August 11, 2018 Supporting Member Share Posted August 11, 2018 I cringe having to dish out $20CAD for an OE oil filter. Not big money, but a rip-off none the less. Agreed. The Hi-Flo 204 filters are only $8-$9. ***2015 Candy Red FJ-09*** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhchris Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 I cringe having to dish out $20CAD for an OE oil filter. Not big money, but a rip-off none the less. Agreed. The Hi-Flo 204 filters are only $8-$9. Don't know how much mileage you folks do annually, but if I do two oil changes a year at 5k mile intervals that's a lot of riding for me. And at that rate the OEM filter is pretty cost effective on a yearly basis, plus I KNOW it won't leak! Also, I've read that hi flow filters do not filter as effectively as standard filters. Just say'n cb 1968 Triumph Bonneville 650 1971 Norton Commando Roadster 2002 Harley 1200 Sportster 2003 Honda ST 1300 2016 FJ 09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krillz Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Agreed. The Hi-Flo 204 filters are only $8-$9. Don't know how much mileage you folks do annually, but if I do two oil changes a year at 5k mile intervals that's a lot of riding for me. And at that rate the OEM filter is pretty cost effective on a yearly basis, plus I KNOW it won't leak! Also, I've read that hi flow filters do not filter as effectively as standard filters. Just say'n cb Hi-Flo is the brand not necessarily Hi flow rate. They don’t claim to flow better unlike a air filter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koth442 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Well I lied up above. When I did my filter / oil change yesterday I pulled off a Wix 51358. I replaced it with a Purolator PL14612 (the Boss version). I'll keep an eye on it to see if seeps. It felt like it made a solid seal and the rubber o-ring is pretty damn squished so we'll see. '15 FJ09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucer Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 ...Next I'll try the Fram XG7317, supposed to be a good filter and is the same for my car so if it works out I'll buy in bulk. That's the filter I used on my FJ-09, use on my Honda NC700X & Honda CR-V (it's specified for the CR-V.) It's a bit longer than the applicable Fram motorcycle filter and a snug fit on the Yam, but increases the total oil capacity. Never a leak issue with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitown Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 It's a well-known issue that many auto oil filters changed design of the base of the filter structure over the past couple of years causing them to no longer seal on bikes when they did so before. Folks have even snapped pics of opening two of the same filter pulled from the shelf with the different designs. And, some of them leak on FJRs. There's even a guy on the FJR forum that sells new junctions if you really, really, really want to use such filters. Anyway, it's a roll of the dice unless you check. I used the Bosch's on my bikes for many years but lately have been using Hiflo so wasn't even aware of the above issue until threads started popping up on the moto boards I visit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member duhg Posted October 11, 2018 Premium Member Share Posted October 11, 2018 Since I had to disassemble an oil filter to remove it several years ago, I have favored the K&N. I suppose I could braze a nut onto cheaper filters. ;-) https://ridemsta.com/oh-tmr/ Riding makes me happy. "Do it or don't do it - you'll regret both." - Soren Kierkegaard 2015 FJ-09, 67k miles, Hord Power ECU, K-Tech suspension, MC Cruise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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