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300 great britian pounds sterling?

Not sure till I hear back from the dealer. While searching online I noticed that the Yamaha Heated Grips are listed as discontinued. Hopefully they can source parts to fix my issue under warranty. I will update here when I have more info.

I dropped my bike off at the dealer a couple of days ago to look into my engine going to 12000 rpm in 2nd gear with heated grips on. Just got a call back to ask if my heated grips were Yamaha's. I said yes, you guys installed them a couple of months ago 🙂 He told me that they will be covered under warranty as Yamaha told them this is something they have seen before and they will be sending replacements.

To many factors to consider when comparing you insurance to mine. My age, bundled discounts etc. However....NE PA USA, Progressive Insurance, 2017 FJ-09, Cost $220, $500 collision/deductible and $3000 allowance for added accessories.

To find the classifieds on this site click Browse on the top of the page and scroll down the to classifieds.

I really like how these Knuckle Guard LED's look on the FJ-09 but just found another seller of these on ebay for half the price. The seller from Korea is top notch but I cant vouch for this new seller from China. Search eBay for 'YAMAHA MT09 TRACER FJ-09 MT-09 TRACER Motorcycle Hand Lights Knuckle Guard Kit' to see. Proceed at you own risk.

Thanks for the explanation. This feature is not going to help with the McCruise CC on my 2017 FJ-09. I read on another site where on a bike with DCT you can click up on the gear shift lever even when in top gear to cancel CC. Does that work with the 2019 and up Yamaha stock CC?

Must've been a big rat .... ooops.

That makes two of us. I think I'm done every day. Now contemplating new levers. Gotta spend that stimulus money. But we could be doing worse, right... 😁

Those levers look sweet. Even though I have large hands I find the stock levers on my '17 are out there. I've been trying different techniques to cancel cruise control to avoid lurching. Explain how double click of levers help with CC cancellation?

When they were taking the box frame off after unboxing the 2021 Tracer above, I was sitting on the edge of my seat thinking they are going to scratch that bike. 🤨

That sucks, sorry for your issues. Can you find someone with the same year/model that you could trade for a day to see if you can find any similarities?

Scary stuff... Deer hit

Yes this is true. I used one grey for my GPS and the other for my DZELL knuckle guard LED lights. Search online for related connectors... Yamaha pins & connectors

In my initial post I wrote 1200 RPM instead of 12000. I have edited this but mention it here so it will make sense when reading Franks reply below from McCruise. I will be visiting the dealer who installed the grip heaters soon. I played with the throttle while cold and it seems to roll completely off when released. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi Michael, This is one I have not heard before! You said “At the end of the hill I made a right turn to a slight climb and in 2nd gear the engine rpm's took off. When I looked down it was approaching 1200 before I rolled off.” The idle speed on this bike is around 900~1,000rpm from memory, 1,200rpm is only 200rpm higher. Is that correct or is your bike doing 12,000rpm (redline or above)? When you said “ The throttle was ever so slightly open each time the RPM's took off and rolling it off brought the RPM's under control”. Do you mean that physically rolling the twist grip off dropped the engine rpm’s? That implies that you are accidentally holding the throttle open a bit or the throttle is binding an not returning to idle when released. If you then release the throttle do the engine rpm’s come back up or does it stay at idle or do you have to ‘push’ the throttle back to idle position? This implies that the heat is either moving something (heat expansion) or is making the twist grip bind so it no longer moves freely and the spring no longer returns it to idle. When the cruise is NOT engaged, the signal from the throttle grip to the engine is a ‘pass through’, the wires feeding the TPS signal into the cruise computer are physically connected to the output wires with no interference at all. Turning the cruise on or off makes no difference to this. When the cruise is engaged, the cruise ‘reads’ the twist grip signals and outputs appropriate signals to the engine to control the throttle, in ths case there is no physical connection between input and output wires. So, when the cruise in NOT engaged, there should be no interference with the throttle signal. There is a couple of other possible causes here that I can think off. One is the heated grips are grounded on the bike’s signal ground (this is a separate ground used for all engine management signals) and turning the heated grips on is interfering with the signal ground. This seems very unlikely though. The heated grips should be connected to a ‘normal’ ground, not the signal ground. The other possibility is that you are running at very low rpm’s and the engine management is ‘adjusting’ the idle speed. The engine management controls the engine idle speed, so if while riding you go slow enough that the engine speed drops below normal idle speed the engine management will apply more throttle in order to restore the idle speed to the correct rpm. If you then pull the clutch, then engine will overspeed slightly and the engine management will then adjust the throttle to bring it back down to idle again, this usually takes a few seconds for this to happen. This is a characteristic of almost all modern motorcycles and cars. This can be seen when you cold start, usually the engine rpm’s are high initially when the engine is cold and after a few seconds the engine returns to normal idle as the engine warms. The engine management is controlling the throttle to achieve this and continues to do this all the time. I use this ‘feature’ in slow traffic, I select a gear that has the engine at idle at the speed I want and allow the engine management to stop the engine stalling. It is surprising how steep a hill the bike or car will happily idle up without dropping speed because the engine management applies more or less throttle as required to maintain the correct idle rpm’s. Obviously there is a limit to this, and the response time is fairly slow, but in steady state slow traffic it makes slow speed control really easy, just using the brakes gently to modulate the speed of the vehicle and not moving the throttle at all. I have not ridden the FZ/FJ-09 a lot, but other bikes that I have ridden have the engine idle speed control linked to gear position/clutch operation as well, the engine idle speed changes slightly depending on clutch operation and gear position in some cases. I am not sure what this is supposed to achieve, but I have noticed this on a number of bikes. I don’t know if any of this will help you at all, but I can’t think of another cause for this. Best regards, Frank Guymer Director MotorCycle Cruise Controls

I had OEM heated grips added on my 2017 FJ-09 at about 350 miles by the dealer when it was in for a checkup, but never used them until yesterday. I installed the OEM quick shifter myself at about 500 miles and it works flawlessly. At 650 miles I added the McCruise with some trepidation as I'm not very knowledgeable of electronics. It too worked flawlessly as the McCruise step by step directions made it such that a 12 year old could install it. So back to yesterday. I rode for about and hour turned on and used the McCruise for a bit and arrived at a large parking lot on the way home where I practice..... quick stops, s-turns etc. Most of my turns were really slow in first and second gear without issue. My hands were chilly so on with the heated grips before I set off for home. When I left the parking lot it was all downhill so there was no load on the engine but something didn't sound right. At the end of the hill I made a right turn to a slight climb and in 2nd gear the engine rpm's took off. When I looked down it was approaching 12000 before I rolled off. I thought maybe I had inadvertently leaned on the throttle and caused this (still learning), so I turned off the engine with my left thumb, put her in N and started up again. Started to move in 1st gear and when I changed into 2nd the RPM's took off again. I turned the engine off and thought Oh no how am I going to get home. I turned off the grip heaters and McCruise and was looking at a better spot up the road to park. Again I started moving, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, no problem and only 5 miles from home so I went for it and no further issues. I got busy last night and this morning and put it out of my mind. Went for a ride this afternoon turned on and used the McCruise for a few minutes and then turned it off without issue. After 30 minutes of no problems I pulled over in a quiet spot, turned on the grip heaters and started off... 1st, 2nd and engine RPM's took off. I duplicated this problem a couple of times before I turned off the grip heaters and again drove home without a problem. The throttle was ever so slightly open each time the RPM's took off and rolling it off brought the RPM's under control. It almost feels like the physical throttle was not retarding completely after the grips got warm. Recently someone on here said Quick Shifter's don't play well with the MC Cruise in '15+'16 model FJ-09's but the '17 had got over that. Searched the forum but couldn't find any references, and certainly none for grip heater/McCruise issues. I just emailed McCruise to see if they have come across this before. Awaiting your guys input.....

Good work. Are you accepting tails for modification? 😁 If you put side cases on will they hide the turn signals with the shorter tail?

If you carry side bags the turn signals might get lost behind them with a shorter tail?

Took a ride down route 502 through the Pocono Mountains in NE PA.

Added some Dzell Knuckle Guard LED's. Nice clean white lights, really like the look...

Not sure what you mean? I have both a McCruise and Yamaha OEM Quickshifter on my 2017 and it works perfectly for up shifts.

While a picture might be worth a thousand words I wouldn't let it deter you from a Corbin without some further investigation. Corbin can make a seat to your specs if asked. Some may say the shape of the 19/20 is better for the twisties. 🏍️

So I ended up purchasing the '80pcs Push Pry Rivets Pin M8 M7 M6 ATV Motorcycle Fairing Bodywork Bolt Nylon' set on ebay. So pleased I did. Tonight I removed the windshield to access the spare connector while hooking up my Dzell Knuckle guard LED lights. One of the nylon rivets around the usb power source broke, and a perfect replacement was in the ebay set. Saved my butt 🏍️ Nylon Rivet set

That seems like a good location. Can the side bags be mounted over the horn, if so does it change the 'noise' output?

The Corbin seat I have for the '19/20 is different to the one for the 15-17. I did not ride on the 19/20 so my input is subjective. I have a short inseam and with the '17 I sit back while cruising but slide forward in traffic for stops. I really like the comfort of the Corbin for long distance (2.5Hrs max so far) as it causes no ill effects. The stock seat had me hurting after 30 minutes. I'm including a pic of both seats 19/20 on left and 15-17 on right. The 19/20 seems like it would be more suited to us with short legs as it is narrower. All the same I would not give up my 15-17. I picked up the 19/20 by mistake and have it listed in the for sale section.