PowerMalc Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 (edited) I am currently looking to get a nearly new Tracer GT which is 3 months old. When ever I see adverts for S/H tracers most mention they have one red key and two black ones, this also ties in with the handbook. This bike I am thinking of only has two black keys, the dealer says its correct and that Yamaha have changed and that new bikes only come with two black keys now. Can anyione who has recently taken delivery of a new Tracer confirm this? I do not want to buy the bike only to find out in the future that I need the red key for re-registering a black only to find they are unobtainable Edited September 16, 2020 by PowerMalc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamtracergaz Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 I can't say for sure but my other yamaha i bought new 3 months ago and that has a red key,so i think your dealer is pulling a fast one and maybe lost the red key,i would find out for sure because a new ECU is £1500 and i personally wouldn't buy it if it is meant to have one and it's missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCVIC Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 (edited) I got mine about a month ago a 2019 model from the dealer only 2 black keys (Canada) Edited September 16, 2020 by JCVIC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris wilkins Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 I picked up a new 2020 Tracer GT 2 weeks ago with 2 black keys and 1 red key, the red key is very important as it communicates with the ECU for reprogramming and new key coding purposes so it's recommended you don't use that one just keep it safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilo3 Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 North America only gets two black keys, EU gets the red and two blacks. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shizzle Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Yep, 2 black keys in Kansas on a 2020 GT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member texscottyd Posted September 16, 2020 Supporting Member Share Posted September 16, 2020 33 minutes ago, kilo3 said: North America only gets two black keys, EU gets the red and two blacks. Exactly. Not sure where you live, @PowerMalc, but if you’re in the EU it should definitely have three keys. Here in the US, it’s only the two black ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowerMalc Posted September 16, 2020 Author Share Posted September 16, 2020 Thanks for the replies. I'm in the UK. The dealer in question is a Yamaha dealer. I am have a test ride at a different Yamaha dealer tomorrow , I will quiz their workshop to see what the score is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel5 Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 No red key no buy in UK😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon E Mouse Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 (edited) I'm in the UK and bought my Tracer 900 GT new a few weeks ago. I confirm that it comes with three keys, the red and two black ones. I don't know where you are based but if anywhere near High Wycombe in Bucks, there's an excellent Yamaha dealer there, Powerbiking. http://www.powerbiking.co.uk/ Edited September 17, 2020 by Anon E Mouse 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyN Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 What is this "Red key" for? As far as I know the key itself does not communicate with the ECU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamtracergaz Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 The red key is for re-programming any new keys if you lose one or if you bend it in a pannier or if your existing black key plays up you can re program them,if you have not got the red key over here in the uk,the only way to sort it is to buy a new ECU that comes with 3 coded keys and these are £1500,so you just don't buy one over here without a red key. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyN Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Then your Tracer gt in Europe must be different than ours in USA. My key does not appear to have any electronics in it. I know what you are referring to in loosing all connection to ECU. If I were to lose all keys and the Fob for my Kawasaki Concours it would mean I have to buy a new ECU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornersruns Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 I'm sure I've seen that the USA keys have a smaller head than the european ones. Maybe that is the difference the European model has an immobiliser with transponder in the key, do the USA models have no immobiliser? That would explain why the USA does not get the red programming key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member betoney Posted September 18, 2020 Supporting Member Share Posted September 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, Cornersruns said: the European model has an immobiliser with transponder in the key, do the USA models have no immobiliser? Correct, USA models do NOT have an immobilizer. ***2015 Candy Red FJ-09*** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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