Can the xsr900 slip and assist clutch be used on the FJ?

[theblade]

Hello SkipperT, I am in the process of putting a slipper clutch to my Tracer but I m worried about removing the boss nut with an impact wrench because you say it can damage the shaft. So what is the best way to remvoe it ??

[betoney]

Hello SkipperT, I am in the process of putting a slipper clutch to my Tracer but I m worried about removing the boss nut with an impact wrench because you say it can damage the shaft. So what is the best way to remvoe it ??

You can use a standard ratchet.  You will need a special clutch holding tool to hold the basket when removing the nut.  (do NOT try to take any short cuts or use improvised methods on this, you dont want a broken clutch basket) Buy a replacement nut and use Loc-Tite on the threads.
 

[skipperT]

Hello SkipperT, I am in the process of putting a slipper clutch to my Tracer but I m worried about removing the boss nut with an impact wrench because you say it can damage the shaft. So what is the best way to remvoe it ??

You can use a standard ratchet.  You will need a special clutch holding tool to hold the basket when removing the nut.  (do NOT try to take any short cuts or use improvised methods on this, you dont want a broken clutch basket) Buy a replacement nut and use Loc-Tite on the threads.

 
^———— what he said.
(Sorry I was a little late to answer your question. )
 
The nut is one time use because it is staked to the main shaft. Unstake the nut before removal and loosen it by hand while using the appropriate clutch basket holding tool.
 
Good luck.
Skip

[theblade]

I bought the Haynes service manual for the MT09/Tracer/FJ09 and it says that you should put the bike in 6th gear and get a mate to sit on the bike and hold on the brakes and it can easily be undone that way . It doesn't mention not to use an impact air wrench ??

[skipperT]

I bought the Haynes service manual for the MT09/Tracer/FJ09 and it says that you should put the bike in 6th gear and get a mate to sit on the bike and hold on the brakes and it can easily be undone that way . It doesn't mention not to use an impact air wrench ??

 
I’ve never tried it that way... So it will depend on if the clutch plates have enough drag to prevent the rear wheel from rotating as you loosen the nut. Give it a try.
 
The Yamaha service procedure is what we’ve outlined here.
 
-Skip

[theblade]

Thanks SkipperT, now I have something else that I need to clear out.
I ordered the parts needed for the slipper clutch conversion according to the list from partshark( https://www.partshark.com/product/53311/xsr900-slipper-clutch-for-fz-09 ) , these are the parts I ordered:
 
3 x 1TD-16178-00-00 Absorber
1 x 1TD-16324-00-00 Clutch Plate
1 x 1TD-16383-00-00 Cushion Spring
1 x 1TD-16384-00-00 Seat Plate
3 x 2CR-16337-00-00 Spring Screw
3 x B90-16173-00-00 Compression Spring
3 x B90-16331-00-00 Friction Plate
1 x B90-16350-00-00 Pressure Plate Assembly
1 x B90-16352-00-00 Pressure Plate 2
1 x B90-16371-00-00 Clutch Boss
1 x 90179-20010-00 Boss Nut
1 x 1RC-15461-00-00 Crankcase Cover Gasket
 
According the the yamaha xsr 900 service manual I need 6 Friction Plate 2 ( inner diameter 119mm) and in the stock clutch there are only 2 of these. Thus I need to order 4 Friction Plates Part No: 5TA-16321-00-00 and not 3 x B90-16331-00-00 Friction Plate as specified in the partshark slipper clutch list. Can somebody please clear this out for me as I am really confused about which friction plates to order for this conversion ??
SkipperT, can you help me with this please so that I can finish my conversion ?? 

[skipperT]

Thanks SkipperT, now I have something else that I need to clear out. I ordered the parts needed for the slipper clutch conversion according to the list from partshark( https://www.partshark.com/product/53311/xsr900-slipper-clutch-for-fz-09 ) , these are the parts I ordered:
 
3 x 1TD-16178-00-00 Absorber
1 x 1TD-16324-00-00 Clutch Plate
1 x 1TD-16383-00-00 Cushion Spring
1 x 1TD-16384-00-00 Seat Plate
3 x 2CR-16337-00-00 Spring Screw
3 x B90-16173-00-00 Compression Spring
3 x B90-16331-00-00 Friction Plate
1 x B90-16350-00-00 Pressure Plate Assembly
1 x B90-16352-00-00 Pressure Plate 2
1 x B90-16371-00-00 Clutch Boss
1 x 90179-20010-00 Boss Nut
1 x 1RC-15461-00-00 Crankcase Cover Gasket
 
According the the yamaha xsr 900 service manual I need 6 Friction Plate 2 ( inner diameter 119mm) and in the stock clutch there are only 2 of these. Thus I need to order 4 Friction Plates Part No: 5TA-16321-00-00 and not 3 x B90-16331-00-00 Friction Plate as specified in the partshark slipper clutch list. Can somebody please clear this out for me as I am really confused about which friction plates to order for this conversion ??
SkipperT, can you help me with this please so that I can finish my conversion ?? 

 
You’ve confused me as well. ?
 
I ordered an entire xsr kit for mine, as it had 25k commuting miles on it and I wasn’t happy with the way it was “releasing”
 
So I didn’t piece everything together as you are doing. My notes on this are at home, and I’m away for a week. Hopefully someone else will chime in?
 
Sorry I couldn’t be more help. I’ll reach out when I have access to my parts list next week.
 
Skip

[betoney]

Thanks SkipperT, now I have something else that I need to clear out. I ordered the parts needed for the slipper clutch conversion according to the list from partshark( https://www.partshark.com/product/53311/xsr900-slipper-clutch-for-fz-09 ) , these are the parts I ordered:
 
3 x 1TD-16178-00-00 Absorber
1 x 1TD-16324-00-00 Clutch Plate
1 x 1TD-16383-00-00 Cushion Spring
1 x 1TD-16384-00-00 Seat Plate
3 x 2CR-16337-00-00 Spring Screw
3 x B90-16173-00-00 Compression Spring
3 x B90-16331-00-00 Friction Plate
1 x B90-16350-00-00 Pressure Plate Assembly
1 x B90-16352-00-00 Pressure Plate 2
1 x B90-16371-00-00 Clutch Boss
1 x 90179-20010-00 Boss Nut
1 x 1RC-15461-00-00 Crankcase Cover Gasket
 
According the the yamaha xsr 900 service manual I need 6 Friction Plate 2 ( inner diameter 119mm) and in the stock clutch there are only 2 of these. Thus I need to order 4 Friction Plates Part No: 5TA-16321-00-00 and not 3 x B90-16331-00-00 Friction Plate as specified in the partshark slipper clutch list. Can somebody please clear this out for me as I am really confused about which friction plates to order for this conversion ??
SkipperT, can you help me with this please so that I can finish my conversion ?? 

If you order the kit from Partshark then it has everything you need for the conversion, there shouldn't be anything you are ordering separately.  They compiled this kit to make the install process as simple as possible. Every part that you have listed (which is provided in the kit) is used in the swap along with your existing clutch plates.   You will replace 3 new plates into your original clutch pack.  If I remember correctly the first friction plate in and the last 2 friction plates are the ones you replace.
 
 

[theblade]

Thanks both of you for your reply Betoney and SkipperT, will wait for you getting back to your notes SkipperT, I just want to be sure to put in the right parts and don't want to be waiting for new parts with the bike clutch open.

[theblade]

Hello SkipperT, are you back home yet ?? Waiting anxiously for your reply !!!

[betoney]

Hello SkipperT, are you back home yet ?? Waiting anxiously for your reply !!!

If you search the forum, there are several threads, with photos, that outline this procedure.  Or look at the XSR service manual and match the part numbers in your kit. 

[theblade]

Hello Betony, I've looked everywhere in this forum and in other forums too (other fz09 forums) and some people have used the kit from partshark and some say they used the kit from the XSR service manual ( that uses different friction plates ), that's why I m confused !!! The partshark list uses the Friction Plate 2 (part no:B90-16331-00-00 ) whilst according to the XSR service manual the XSR uses 6 x (5TA-16321-00-00 ) which are totally different friction plates , one has thick tabs and the other narrow tabs  !!!
 

[betoney]

Yes, the kit gives you 3 friction plates that you use in conjunction with your existing clutch pack.
When I get home tonight I will search the forum and see if I can find the posts that explain the procedure. When I did mine, I got the info from this forum.

[skipperT]

Hello SkipperT, are you back home yet ?? Waiting anxiously for your reply !!!

 
Sorry for the delay - you need BOTH. You need 3 of the B90-16331 discs AND 6 total of the 5TA-16321 discs.
Make sense?
 
-Skip

[betoney]

So I found some notes I posted from several months ago when I did the install. I hope this info helps.
 
I installed the assist/slipper clutch this morning and for the most part, everything went very smooth. Prior to attempting this, in addition to basic sockets you WILL need the following:
 
-XSR900 service manual (chapter 5)
-Clutch holding tool
-30mm socket
-Torque wrench
-Thread locker
 
When you get the parts, familiarize yourself with each part and read through the service manual to become comfortable with each step and which plates get replaced.
 
Some very specific steps that you will want to pay attention to -
-The judder spring (clutch damper spring) goes in facing out.
-The (first) inner friction plate and the (last) outer 3 plates (2x friction, 1x steel drive) get replaced.
-The last friction plate is offset by 1 tooth from the rest of the clutch pack.
-The pull rod gets installed with the teeth facing 4 o'clock.
-The push lever assembly (where the clutch cable connects to) gets aligned triangle to dot when there is tension on the arm, if you align the two marks when there is free play, you will adjust your lever all the way out and will have zero clutch cable pull.
 
Most of this will all make sense when you get in there and have "hands-on" interaction.
 
The 6 post clutch boss and pressure plate gets replaced with a 3 post model, in place of the 2nd, 4th and 6th spring are rubber dampers, very similar to the rubber dampers in a cush drive on your sprocket carrier.