Bob K Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 Has anyone tried using 87 OT in there Tracer 900 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick123 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Yes. On previously owned 2015 (put 20000km on it) and 2017 FJ09 (road it for almost 40000 km) as well as on 2019 Tracer 900 (first time today in fact). No issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ride365 Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 I'd only do it if were my only choice, must assume there are good reasons why we run high octane in this engine. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member knyte Posted March 28, 2023 Supporting Member Share Posted March 28, 2023 Higher compression engines means it wants higher octane. High octane runs better in high compression ratio engines because it's more stable under those conditions. Running lower octane now and again when nothing else is available won't hurt anything because the knock sensor can usually compensate, but it's ill advised to run it long-term because of the risk of pre-detonation (knock). So, you get longer life, better fuel economy and power, and less knock with high octane as recommended by the manufacturer. 2 2015 FJ-09 / FJR touring bags / oil plug mod / Evotech rad guard / SW Motech bash plate / GIVI DS2122S windscreen / Seat Concepts: Sport Touring / Vcyclenut ABS rings (speedo correction) / Cosmo RAM mount Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Goat Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 On 3/26/2023 at 6:34 PM, Bob K said: Has anyone tried using 87 OT in there Tracer 900 ? Yes I have, on long distances where I do say 500 mile days and am burning through the gas. No bad effects and no noticeable knocking / pinging. Otherwise, I regularly use Extra 89 octane. For me, anything beyond is a waste of money. Regards, Grumpy Goat | 2019 Yamaha Tracer 900 GT & 2016 BMW R1200RS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member betoney Posted March 29, 2023 Supporting Member Share Posted March 29, 2023 On 3/26/2023 at 4:34 PM, Bob K said: Has anyone tried using 87 OT in there Tracer 900 ? There have been times while riding in remote areas the only gas available was regular 87, I normally use the recommended premium 91 but when its not available, 87 works just fine. ***2015 Candy Red FJ-09*** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick123 Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 And no, no difference in fuel economy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBikers Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Rick123 said: And no, no difference in fuel economy. Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick123 Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 17 minutes ago, OldBikers said: Really? Yes, really. Surprised? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBikers Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 Yes, really surprised because the anti-knock solution is to retard the ignition timing which will reduce mileage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 But it will only retard the ignition is there is knock. 1 There is never enough time or money to do it right the first time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skipperT Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 Ok, for the record: NO knock sensors on the original FJ/MT/FZ/XSR engines! yamaha recently added knock sensors on the newest Euro 5 engines, so 2022 and forward 9GT and MT09/SP have sensors. run lower octane fuel at your own risk. Mileage WILL go down and carbon build-up WILL increase due to a more dirty “burn” in the combustion chamber and valve seat/stem area. Using Yamaha Ringfree plus will help keep the combustion areas cleaner. YMMV, -Skip 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfisher Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 It seems that on every motorcycle forum that I visit, that there is always a thread where some advocate using a lower octane fuel then is recommended for a given bike. If it's your bike, run what you want, but it seems to me that it is questionable to use a fuel that may not be best for the bike in terms of longevity or performance. The money saved with the lower octane is not that great. On a recent 3,000 mile trip, my '22 Tracer used about 70 gallons of gas. If 91 octane is 50 cents more per gallon than 87, that is about $34 more for a 9 day trip. I'll pay that for the benefit provided. YMMV. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhchris Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 And don’t even think about running a car tire on the rear!! ;) 2 1968 Triumph Bonneville 650 1971 Norton Commando Roadster 2002 Harley 1200 Sportster 2003 Honda ST 1300 2016 FJ 09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member 2and3cylinders Posted March 30, 2023 Premium Member Share Posted March 30, 2023 7 hours ago, kingfisher said: It seems that on every motorcycle forum that I visit, that there is always a thread where some advocate using a lower octane fuel then is recommended for a given bike. If it's your bike, run what you want, but it seems to me that it is questionable to use a fuel that may not be best for the bike in terms of longevity or performance. The money saved with the lower octane is not that great. On a recent 3,000 mile trip, my '22 Tracer used about 70 gallons of gas. If 91 octane is 50 cents more per gallon than 87, that is about $34 more for a 9 day trip. I'll pay that for the benefit provided. YMMV. Here premium is a buck more! I filled up with mid grade e ten and then For the winter when I tapped it off. If I'm out for ride and taken it real easy. I may go cheap but usually I do use 91. E10 and E 0. When available But I do agree with you mostly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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