crash Posted May 12, 2017 Share Posted May 12, 2017 That seems plausible. It may be that an FJ10 GT is just wishful thinking on my part. From a business standpoint it seems like something that would cannibalize sales from the existing FJR1300 and FJ09, and perhaps even the Super Tenere. The FJR is getting a little long in the tooth. It would make sense for Yamaha to discontinue the FJR and replace it with a hypothetical FJ10 using the same engine as the FZ10 but putting it in a touring package with a fairing, a big tank, larger bags and plusher seat. All the sport DNA of an R1 in a more luxurious touring package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member keithu Posted May 12, 2017 Author Premium Member Share Posted May 12, 2017 It would make sense for Yamaha to discontinue the FJR and replace it with a hypothetical FJ10 using the same engine as the FZ10 but putting it in a touring package with a fairing, a big tank, larger bags and plusher seat. All the sport DNA of an R1 in a more luxurious touring package. An FJR replacement would also need shaft drive. I know there are varying opinions about shaft drive, but many in the FJR's target market simply won't take it seriously if it has a chain. Remember the GTS1000? Chain drive skewered its chances of drawing any customers away from BMW or the ST1100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member texscottyd Posted May 12, 2017 Supporting Member Share Posted May 12, 2017 Remember the GTS1000? Chain drive skewered its chances of drawing any customers away from BMW or the ST1100.Not only do I remember the GTS1000, I got to spend a full week riding one, courtesy of a good friend who was a regional Yamaha rep at the time. It was an amazing bike for the era... way ahead of its time with the RADD swingarm front suspension, 'Omega' frame, ABS, fuel injected five-valve motor, a nifty glovebox storage built into the fuel tank/airbox cover, et cetera. It was smooth, fast, and sophisticated. I would have owned one in a heartbeat if not for the roughly $13K price tag... that was a lot of coin in 1993. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member keithu Posted May 12, 2017 Author Premium Member Share Posted May 12, 2017 It was an amazing bike for the era... way ahead of its time with the RADD swingarm front suspension, 'Omega' frame, ABS, fuel injected five-valve motor, a nifty glovebox storage built into the fuel tank/airbox cover, et cetera. It was smooth, fast, and sophisticated. Unfortunately for Yamaha the R1100RS also came out that year. It also had a revolutionary new front suspension, EFI, ABS, etc. Sure it was a little less powerful, but the BMW also had shaft drive and still managed to weigh 40lbs less than the Yamaha. And this was back when we still thought BMWs were reliable. The GTS just wasn't a good value compared to the BMW for most sport tourer shoppers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinkerfreak Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 I have noticed something interesting, on the Yamaha America and the Canadian site that under the 2018's the FJ-09 does not even show up as one of the models so I was wondering if they(the GT hopefully) will show up after the EICMA show in Milan next month.......the plot thickens! Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member clint Posted October 18, 2017 Premium Member Share Posted October 18, 2017 An FJR replacement would also need shaft drive. I know there are varying opinions about shaft drive, but many in the FJR's target market simply won't take it seriously if it has a chain. Remember the GTS1000? Chain drive skewered its chances of drawing any customers away from BMW or the ST1100. I've got a 1994 GTS1000 with about 104,000 miles on her. Still looking good and running great!! Piedmont of NC '15 FJ-09 '94 GTS-1000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wordsmith Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 An FJR replacement would also need shaft drive. I know there are varying opinions about shaft drive, but many in the FJR's target market simply won't take it seriously if it has a chain. Remember the GTS1000? Chain drive skewered its chances of drawing any customers away from BMW or the ST1100. I've got a 1994 GTS1000 with about 104,000 miles on her. Still looking good and running great!! Personally I'd be more than happy with belt drive on a GT version: probably a good deal less costly than shaft, and certainly a lot lighter, which would be important on a mid-capacity bike such as the FJ/ MT-09 Tracer. My BMW F800 GT was belt-driven and it did the job admirably. And IMHO the single-sided swing-arm was quite attractive, and may even have helped keep weight down further. See pic below... But how serious is this chatter about a GT/ dedicated Tourer - or is it just wishful thinking? Any pix yet, even if just concept drawings?? Riding a fully-farkled 2019 MT-09 Tracer 900 GT from my bayside home in South East Queensland, Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member fddriver2 Posted October 19, 2017 Premium Member Share Posted October 19, 2017 Personally I'd be more than happy with belt drive on a GT version: probably a good deal less costly than shaft, and certainly a lot lighter, which would be important on a mid-capacity bike such as the FJ/ MT-09 Tracer. My BMW F800 GT was belt-driven and it did the job admirably. See pic below... I have a 2009 HD XR1200 with a belt drive and it works just fine. I wheelie, ride hard and have put a bunch of miles on it 50,000+. And the original belt is just fine. After initial stretch just check it for missing teeth and cracks and move along. No cleaning or oiling. For the life of me I don't understand why they're not on a lot more bikes.... "It doesn't matter who walks in, you know the joke is still the same" Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. USA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinkerfreak Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Not a GT but it uses the FJ-09 engine https://ultimatemotorcycling.com/2017/10/27/yamaha-niken-3-wheeler-unveiled-details-scarce-leaning-multi-wheeler/ Really hope this isn't what we have been waiting for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldfart Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Come on, you've got to admit it's pretty bad-ass! I can't wait to see one in person, and I hope they blend this bike into our forum so we can see what owners think of them. It's closer to an FJ-09 than anything else so it sort of belongs here, don't you think? Hopefully they'll have one at the shows coming up this winter. ultimatemotorcycling.com/2017/10/27/yamaha-niken-3-wheeler-unveiled-details-scarce-leaning-multi-wheeler/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_twB4OBeboU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporting Member betoney Posted October 27, 2017 Supporting Member Share Posted October 27, 2017 Come on, you've got to admit it's pretty bad-ass! I can't wait to see one in person, and I hope they blend this bike into our forum so we can see what owners think of them. It's closer to an FJ-09 than anything else so it sort of belongs here, don't you think? Hopefully they'll have one at the shows coming up this winter. ultimatemotorcycling.com/2017/10/27/yamaha-niken-3-wheeler-unveiled-details-scarce-leaning-multi-wheeler/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_twB4OBeboU I would love to see it in person, but I LOVE innovation and companies that push the envelope, it makes the competition think outside of the box to play catch-up. ***2015 Candy Red FJ-09*** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wordsmith Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Not a GT but it uses the FJ-09 engine https://ultimatemotorcycling.com/2017/10/27/yamaha-niken-3-wheeler-unveiled-details-scarce-leaning-multi-wheeler/ Really hope this isn't what we have been waiting for If you wish, call me a cranky old bugger - but I wish Yamaha had spent a fraction of the R&D this would have cost on a decent seat for the FJ/ MT-09! Riding a fully-farkled 2019 MT-09 Tracer 900 GT from my bayside home in South East Queensland, Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vijay Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 At the risk of being Politically Incorrect ... which I always am. Sort of reminds me of my 1st girlfriend. A bit different but a heck of ride! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member superfist Posted November 6, 2017 Premium Member Share Posted November 6, 2017 I just saw the live stream of Yamaha's announcements for new models and a Tracer 900 GT is confirmed! It gets everything most of us want, too. TFT Full color dash display, fully adjustable front suspension, heated grips, color matched factory luggage, cruise control and a quick shifter is all stock on the GT model. It's like Yamaha was listening to the community or something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucktownbilly Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Coming to US, right? When? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.